HuskieMikeW Wrote:

NIUGAMBLER Wrote:

houstonhuskie Wrote:i think wolfe would have made a big difference but lets face it....why the hell were the players out at a bar on the night before the biggest game in their lives...what the heck were they thinking

It wasn't the night before. Know your facts before you post.

You know what he meant. What the hell is he doing in the bar during the football season period - especially as a sophmore!

That's a great question. A couple nights before the biggest game of the year, after coach Novak tells the kids to not to anything to hurt the football team, and he allows a distraction to be created.

Absolutely stupid, and it looked to me like the team's edge wasn't there. I have to think that was indeed a distraction.

Haldi and Hansboro are stinking up the joint! This is really depressing, what is this 10 in a row or 11? eVERYBODY SAID THAT OUR DEFENSE WAS our week spot as the season started, and it finally collapsed tonight. I think we know what we need to address in the offseason. Now we need BG to beat Toledo, and we need to beat EMU and we still win the west. Is that right?

doginboulder Wrote:Haldi and Hansboro are stinking up the joint! This is really depressing, what is this 10 in a row or 11? eVERYBODY SAID THAT OUR DEFENSE WAS our week spot as the season started, and it finally collapsed tonight. I think we know what we need to address in the offseason. Now we need BG to beat Toledo, and we need to beat EMU and we still win the west. Is that right?

I honestly think we KNEW our D sucked...Josh is the one who shocked me the most.

When he missed wide open sheldon....I wanted to cry.

Josh haldi, don't expect to have a plaque in ur honor in my house. Josh does just win, and i know i have been the one saying it, but he doesn't win the games we need to.

HuskieMikeW Wrote:

HuskieDan Wrote:

HuskieMikeW Wrote:Why do I think it would be a different game with Wolfe in????

AJ's playing fine, don't get me wrong, but Wolfe is a game breaker, AJ is not.

AJ hasn't been the problem. The OL has been owned in the second half.

Huskie Dan - READ!!!!!!!!!!

I said that AJ was doing good, I just think GW brings more to the table.

I get it. The problem is that the OL has been flat dominated the last three quarters. Garrett may have been able to make a play here and there, but the OL is getting its butt beat.

I blame Garrett for creating a distraction, but we have enough talent on this team to be playing better than this without him.

NIUGAMBLER Wrote:

doginboulder Wrote:Haldi and Hansboro are stinking up the joint! This is really depressing, what is this 10 in a row or 11? eVERYBODY SAID THAT OUR DEFENSE WAS our week spot as the season started, and it finally collapsed tonight. I think we know what we need to address in the offseason. Now we need BG to beat Toledo, and we need to beat EMU and we still win the west. Is that right?

I honestly think we KNEW our D sucked...Josh is the one who shocked me the most.

When he missed wide open sheldon....I wanted to cry.

Josh haldi, don't expect to have a plaque in ur honor in my house. Josh does just win, and i know i have been the one saying it, but he doesn't win the games we need to.

Josh hasn't played well, but Sheldon slowed up on that play. Shatone dropped a third down conversion play when it was tied. The OL is getting beat. It's just not working.

The D has not given up big plays and has not blitzed in order to keep the big plays from happening, but we can't hold on a third down. They ran the ball right at us and we couldn't stop them and couldn't tackle. Hansbro has been thrown at almost every play and has had multiple interference calls and several plays made against him. Ugh.

I hate it, but I just became a huge BG fan.

Let's face it. Joe is just not a good game coach. He can't win the big game. It's a fact. He's a good coach, but this is sickening.

HuskieDan - you said after the BSU debacle that it was good the coaches had something [the sick D] to work on. As I said then, it was NOT a good thing.

HuskieDan Wrote:

NIUGAMBLER Wrote:

doginboulder Wrote:Haldi and Hansboro are stinking up the joint! This is really depressing, what is this 10 in a row or 11? eVERYBODY SAID THAT OUR DEFENSE WAS our week spot as the season started, and it finally collapsed tonight. I think we know what we need to address in the offseason. Now we need BG to beat Toledo, and we need to beat EMU and we still win the west. Is that right?

I honestly think we KNEW our D sucked...Josh is the one who shocked me the most.

When he missed wide open sheldon....I wanted to cry.

Josh haldi, don't expect to have a plaque in ur honor in my house. Josh does just win, and i know i have been the one saying it, but he doesn't win the games we need to.

Josh hasn't played well, but Sheldon slowed up on that play. Shatone dropped a third down conversion play when it was tied. The OL is getting beat. It's just not working.

The D has not given up big plays and has not blitzed in order to keep the big plays from happening, but we can't hold on a third down. They ran the ball right at us and we couldn't stop them and couldn't tackle. Hansbro has been thrown at almost every play and has had multiple interference calls and several plays made against him. Ugh.

Josh's TD pass that hit the toledo man in the hands?

Josh was ****** all night. He is a joke, i loved him at qb but he never did anything except beat crappy teams and win when it wasn't a pressure situation, i'm willing to welcome a NEW QB in here with open arms next season, someone who doesn't know what it is like to lose to toledo and thinks they can beat the world. That's the type of qb i want.

19 yards of O in the second half to 297 for UT.

Totally pathetic.

I had said we were overranked (but happy to be so), but didn't think we were this bad. A very sad 2nd half.

Is it me or did Toledo run that same roll out to the TE all night - did anyone count how many times they connected on that play?

HuskieMikeW Wrote:Let's face it. Joe is just not a good game coach. He can't win the big game. It's a fact. He's a good coach, but this is sickening.

HuskieDan - you said after the BSU debacle that it was good the coaches had something [the sick D] to work on. As I said then, it was NOT a good thing.

I think that's flat ignorant. The OL, the best in the MAC, got owned after the first quarter. The D couldn't get a stop - they didn't allow any big plays, but they couldn't get a stop. Their OLine dominated us, no doubt about it.

But come on, NOvak is a bad game day coach? Was he coaching when we beat Maryland, Alabama, Iowa St, Wake, BG, Miami? I suppose that day it was all the players, right? :rolleyes:

BTW - it's only a good thing when you win, obviously. And I didn't see a team with the same fire of most of the rest of the year. The ran it well in the first quarter, then got owned.

HuskieTap22 Wrote:Is it me or did Toledo run that same roll out to the TE all night - did anyone count how many times they connected on that play?

We did the same thing to BG. When you have a good running game, that play will work.

The great Joe Novak (who I have long loved and supported and will continue to do so) let down this team. Where was the leadership? Where was the preparation? All this talk about how squeaky clean and ethical our program is under Joe rings a bit hollow when the star running back and several others are out acting like gansters in a club shortly before the biggest game in the school's history. Seems to me that perhaps Joe Novak doesn't command quite the respect of all his players that we thought.

niu85alum Wrote:The great Joe Novak (who I have long loved and supported and will continue to do so) let down this team. Where was the leadership? Where was the preparation? All this talk about how squeaky clean and ethical our program is under Joe rings a bit hollow when the star running back and several others are out acting like gansters in a club shortly before the biggest game in the school's history. Seems to me that perhaps Joe Novak doesn't command quite the respect of all his players that we thought.

I don't think you have any idea what you're talking about, considering you hang out with a fundraising group that blames their ineptitude on "interest". That's weak, and so are you.

HuskieDan Wrote:

niu85alum Wrote:The great Joe Novak (who I have long loved and supported and will continue to do so) let down this team.  Where was the leadership?  Where was the preparation?  All this talk about how squeaky clean and ethical our program is under Joe rings a bit hollow when the star running back and several others are out acting like gansters in a club shortly before the biggest game in the school's history.  Seems to me that perhaps Joe Novak doesn't command quite the respect of all his players that we thought.

I don't think you have any idea what you're talking about, considering you hang out with a fundraising group that blames their ineptitude on "interest". That's weak, and so are you.

The next time I run into Michael Malone I'll let him know that the doorknob moderator of a Huskie chat room doesn't approve of NIU's fundraising ability. No doubt that will bring clarity to his role.

HuskieDan Wrote:

HuskieMikeW Wrote:Let's face it.  Joe is just not a good game coach.  He can't win the big game.  It's a fact.  He's a good coach, but this is sickening.

HuskieDan - you said after the BSU debacle that it was good the coaches had something [the sick D] to work on.  As I said then, it was NOT a good thing.

I think that's flat ignorant. The OL, the best in the MAC, got owned after the first quarter. The D couldn't get a stop - they didn't allow any big plays, but they couldn't get a stop. Their OLine dominated us, no doubt about it.

But come on, NOvak is a bad game day coach? Was he coaching when we beat Maryland, Alabama, Iowa St, Wake, BG, Miami? I suppose that day it was all the players, right? :rolleyes:

BTW - it's only a good thing when you win, obviously. And I didn't see a team with the same fire of most of the rest of the year. The ran it well in the first quarter, then got owned.

What part is ignorant??

Joe is the one who said those Bama, MD, and ISU wins don't mean a thing. And the BGSU win this year was big to some degree, but it was earlier in the season, and not on national TV like this game. Has Joe ever won a game when we were on ESPN??? And we don't only lose, we look sick doing to. 19! NINETEEN!!!!!!!! 19! yards of offense in the 2nd half. Terrible play calling, motivation, etc.

Wake and ISU were not big wins over good teams, they were just wins over BCS teams. Good for the program, but I would not call those "BIG" games.

He said after the BSU squeaker that it is hard to get kids up for every game. How did he NOT have the team up for this team?

the bowling green game was on national tv

For the record, let it be said that a great many of us Huskie diehards are sick and tired of hearing all about our great victories against Maryland, Iowa State and Alabama last year. Those wins were nice but ultimately didn't mean squat as we didn't win the MAC crown in 2003 (again) and didn't go to a bowl game (again). Beating Toledo is all that has mattered in each of the past three seasons. Some fluky out of conference victories in 2003 will bring zero solace to me when I am watching 56 other teams play in 28 bowl games again this year.

niu85alum Wrote:

HuskieDan Wrote:

niu85alum Wrote:The great Joe Novak (who I have long loved and supported and will continue to do so) let down this team.  Where was the leadership?  Where was the preparation?  All this talk about how squeaky clean and ethical our program is under Joe rings a bit hollow when the star running back and several others are out acting like gansters in a club shortly before the biggest game in the school's history.  Seems to me that perhaps Joe Novak doesn't command quite the respect of all his players that we thought.

I don't think you have any idea what you're talking about, considering you hang out with a fundraising group that blames their ineptitude on "interest". That's weak, and so are you.

The next time I run into Michael Malone I'll let him know that the doorknob moderator of a Huskie chat room doesn't approve of NIU's fundraising ability. No doubt that will bring clarity to his role.

Please do. Be sure that he realizes that he's failed also, and is a lousy gameday fundraiser.

niu85alum Wrote:For the record, let it be said that a great many of us Huskie diehards are sick and tired of hearing all about our great victories against Maryland, Iowa State and Alabama last year. Those wins were nice but ultimately didn't mean squat as we didn't win the MAC crown in 2003 (again) and didn't go to a bowl game (again). Beating Toledo is all that has mattered in each of the past three seasons. Some fluky out of conference victories in 2003 will bring zero solace to me when I am watching 56 other teams play in 28 bowl games again this year.

OK. What do you suggest be done?