niu85alum Wrote:NIU is going to get a bowl bid. NIU will be recipient of the 4th best bowl bid handed out to the MAC behind Toledo, Miami and Bowling Green. Teams that can't beat Toledo and can't win the MAC West can't be chosers. I will be glad with any bowl that we get even if it is played in the Himalayas, game day attendance is 3,500 and NIU's payout is a $1.37.

Fortunately for NIU and the MAC, the world of college football turned upside down on its head in 2004.

What's your rationale for Bowling Green getting a bowl bid before us?

Hey dumba**:

Even if Hawaii and Tulane win next week, do you really think Akron, Marshall, and Troy will be invited ahead of us? Why don't you go help some major conference school strap on the kneepads for the bowl reps. Oh that's right, even that won't help your Fighting Declini, troll! :chair:

For a second there I thought Alum changed his screen name to DogDays....

They can both take a hike as fas as I am concerned.

Dog Fan Wrote:

niu85alum Wrote:NIU is going to get a bowl bid.  NIU will be recipient of the 4th best bowl bid handed out to the MAC behind Toledo, Miami and Bowling Green.  Teams that can't beat Toledo and can't win the MAC West can't be chosers.  I will be glad with any bowl that we get even if it is played in the Himalayas, game day attendance is 3,500 and NIU's payout is a $1.37. 

Fortunately for NIU and the MAC, the world of college football turned upside down on its head in 2004.

What's your rationale for Bowling Green getting a bowl bid before us?

Its simply my opinion that the world of football "experts" and bowl selection committees view Bowling Green the superior team over NIU right now. Do I agree? Not sure to be honest.

After they get cofortable, they bring friends. Next thing you know, you have an infestation.

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Please allow me, Frank, Mr Northern Star, to make this as palpable for you as possible.

My statement was: "NIU is 0-3 in two years vs. the other top MAC teams, and do not have a significant non-conference win this year."


2003

10 -2 Record
Lost to Bowling Green Loss number one
Lost to Toledo Loss number two


2004

8-3 Record
Lost to Toledo Loss number three

2 plus 1 = 3 and only 3

Three losses in two(2) years to top MAC teams.

By the way, had we won any two of those three games over the past two years, and such was a real possibility, we wouldn't be debating the likelyhood of a Bowl invitation now.

Each one of those games was at the time televised, and the 2004 Toledo home game was shown before a national audience.

That is exactly why Northern struggles for respectabliity. Anyone who has even a scintilla of football knowledge would gladly objectively tell you this...................you must win the games in your conference against quality oppenents to be respected.

I have enjoyed reading all the comments. It has been fun today, but it is now time to go make some money.

Now, see what you did, infestation.

[QUOTE=DogDays,Nov 29 2004, 05:15 PM] [quote]

Please allow me, Frank, Mr Northern Star, to make this as palpable for you as possible.

My statement was: "NIU is 0-3 in two years vs. the other top MAC teams, and do not have a significant non-conference win this year."


2003

10 -2 Record
Lost to Bowling Green Loss number one
Lost to Toledo Loss number two


2004

8-3 Record
Lost to Toledo Loss number three

2 plus 1 = 3 and only 3

Three losses in two(2) years to top MAC teams.

By the way, had we won any two of those three games over the past two years, and such was a real possibility, we wouldn't be debating the likelyhood of a Bowl invitation now.

Each one of those games was at the time televised, and the 2004 Toledo home game was shown before a national audience.

That is exactly why Northern struggles for respectabliity. Anyone who has even a scintilla of football knowledge would gladly objectively tell you this...................you must win the games in your conference against quality oppenents to be respected.

I have enjoyed reading all the comments. It has been fun today, but it is now time to go make some money. [/quote]
Nobody on this board will dare admit it, but the bottom line is you speak the truth. Fact is that NIU has not won the games it needed to win the past three consecutive seasons. I like Joe Novak has much as the next guy, but it IS appropriate to be critical at this stage. Nine years and still no MAC title? Three consecutive seasons of being outcoached by Curley Joe impersonator Amstutz in Toledo? Not good.

Yeah Dog Days,

It's time for you to go sell yourself on the corner as dusk has arrived, eh? You know it's interesting how you make these comments that are challenged and you don't have an answer for them-56 teams/56 slots - don't need to be a math major to figure that one out.

Back to your cave, troll!

DogDays Wrote:For all of you dreaming of a NIU Bowl this year, control your emotions and think twice.

4 or 5 MAC teams to bowls in '04. WHAT??? Get a grip on yourself. If Cincy is going to the Ft. Worth Bowl with a 6-5 record and a 7-70 drubbing during Thanksgiving week, and Minnesota is going to the MCB with a comparable 6-5 record, loosing 5 of 6 in the last 6 games and is only 3-5 in conference play, then why do you expect some Bowl Representative to solicit 8-3 Northern Illinois University who lost their most important game to Toledo, at home.

Have you so soon forgot the '03 NIU Huskie team starring Heiseman Trophy candidate "Turner the Burner". That team was 10-2 for goodness sake, and roasted their own chestnuts at Christmas time. That team had wins over the likes of ACC Maryland, Big 12 Iowa State and formerly National Champion SEC Alabama.

Face it my fellow Huskie brethern it ain't going to happen. If you are an insignificant directional school located in the cornfields you have to win ALL the games that count, including pivotal conference games. NIU is 0-3 in two years vs the other top MAC teams and do not have a significant non-conference win this year. You may not be aware of this but the Bowl Reps sure are. The day NIU goes to a Bowl without winning the conference will be a day when the corn don't grow in DeKalb. C'est Damage. Mes amis.

Two reasons - because you've reeled off a pair of direct tie-ins for these teams and we are looking at filling an at-large slot, and you're an idiot.

Quote:After urging my non NIU friends to watch the then ranked Huskie squad, we went and lost, at home no less. Perhaps you were never embarrased but I sure was.

So, you're pissed because your ******* know-nothing friends are uninformed idiots and don't respect your alma mater? It is not this team or any of its' fans faults that your friends are morons.

Quote:That is exactly why Northern struggles for respectabliity. Anyone who has even a scintilla of football knowledge would gladly objectively tell you this...................you must win the games in your conference against quality oppenents to be respected.

How does your highness explain our being ranked this season despite only having one "noticeable" win - over BG?

I'm anxious to hear you describe why we should give a damn what your dumb*** friends think is good when the nation's football coaches see as good and we're selling out the football stadium. But why let more than your own circumstantial evidence make the argument? :rolleyes:

Fun? No. Your crap is too easy.

DogDays Wrote:      That is exactly why Northern struggles for respectabliity.  Anyone who has even a scintilla of football knowledge would gladly objectively tell you this...................you must win the games in your conference against quality oppenents to be respected.

      I have enjoyed reading all the comments. It has been fun today, but it is now time to go make some money.

This is exactly the point you lost any credibility you had left.

What team was respected more nationally?

- The 2003 Huskies who beat a ranked Maryland team, went to Bama and won, and beat ISU, but lost to its top two MAC foes Toledo and Bowling Green.

or

- The 2004 Huskies who lost to Maryland and ISU and went 1-1 against its top two MAC foes Toledo and Bowling Green.

It's really not even close.

Beating MAC teams is great, but it's beating BCS teams that gives mid-majors respect nationally. To argue differently shows a complete misunderstanding of how college football actually works.

NIU98 Wrote:Beating MAC teams is great, but it's beating BCS teams that gives mid-majors respect nationally. To argue differently shows a complete misunderstanding of how college football actually works.

I think all of his posts show a complete misunderstanding of how college football works.

niu85alum,Nov 29 2004, 06:20 PM Wrote:[QUOTE=DogDays,Nov 29 2004, 05:15 PM]

Quote:Please allow me, Frank, Mr Northern Star, to make this as palpable for you as possible.

My statement was: "NIU is 0-3 in two years vs. the other top MAC teams, and do not have a significant non-conference win this year."


2003

10 -2 Record
Lost to Bowling Green Loss number one
Lost to Toledo Loss number two


2004

8-3 Record
Lost to Toledo Loss number three

2 plus 1 = 3 and only 3

Three losses in two(2) years to top MAC teams.

By the way, had we won any two of those three games over the past two years, and such was a real possibility, we wouldn't be debating the likelyhood of a Bowl invitation now.

Each one of those games was at the time televised, and the 2004 Toledo home game was shown before a national audience.

That is exactly why Northern struggles for respectabliity. Anyone who has even a scintilla of football knowledge would gladly objectively tell you this...................you must win the games in your conference against quality oppenents to be respected.

I have enjoyed reading all the comments. It has been fun today, but it is now time to go make some money.

Nobody on this board will dare admit it, but the bottom line is you speak the truth. Fact is that NIU has not won the games it needed to win the past three consecutive seasons. I like Joe Novak has much as the next guy, but it IS appropriate to be critical at this stage. Nine years and still no MAC title? Three consecutive seasons of being outcoached by Curley Joe impersonator Amstutz in Toledo? Not good.

Oh....my....God! See what you've done!!!