Of course all MAC teams are on the road except for CMU. NU only a 14' fav vs. Ohio. I have to guess than that we'd be low single digit 'dogs when we play them the following week. Which games would any of you take the points in? 38' with Ball State over Iowa?


01/SEP/05
07:30 PM 123 Buffalo Bulls 124 Connecticut Huskies -18
07:00 PM 127 Eastern Michigan Eagles 128 Cincinnati Bearcats -12½
02/SEP/05
07:30 PM 149 Indiana Hoosiers -10½ 150 Central Michigan Chippewas
03/SEP/05
12:00 PM 153 Bowling Green Falcons 154 Wisconsin Badgers -5
12:00 PM 155 Ohio Bobcats 156 Northwestern Wildcats -14½
12:00 PM 157 Western Michigan Broncos 158 Virginia Cavaliers -32
12:00 PM 159 Ball State Cardinals 160 Iowa Hawkeyes -38½
12:00 PM 161 Kent Golden Flashes 162 Michigan State Spartans -18½
12:00 PM 163 Miami Ohio Redhawks 164 Ohio State Buckeyes -17
03:30 PM 165 Northern Illinois Huskies 166 Michigan Wolverines -18

The teams I am going to take the points on:

Buffalo, Uconn is down their stud QB and their recruiting hasn't been up to BIG EAST standards. Good classes, but not good enough to blow even lowly buffalo out.

WMU, I don't really like the team, but that is just too many points to give up. Virgina is a team that I don't think will try to run the score up.

BSU. Everyone's pick to click on this board last year is going to struggle, but by 38? Have to take it. No reasons other than the points are just so darn many.

NIU. I'm a big time homer, but we do well against the spread. Michigan is without their #1 WR from last year and it may take a half or so for Henne to find his new favorite :) . I like NIU to be close for a half, and as long as the wheels don't fall completely off in the second half we should be in the money.

And a few I'm torn on are Miami and BGSU.

Over - 38 seems like alot but Iowa has pasted better teams in recent openers. Iowa by 40 +.....

Over - Beacats by 17.5 - Hurons suffer identity crisis without Sherrell as go to guy .....

Over - Spartans by 36 . Kent new QB and O stumbles early and often...

Over- Cavs by 40 - it could be worse given porous Broncos D still out to pasture ....


Over - OSU by 27 - not so neighborly slap down of a new coach...

Over - Badgers by 17. The Score of the Phantom of Camp Randall reigns supreme. Some things rarely change. ...

Over - Uconn by 24. Hell, those Huskies beat Toledo by as many or more in Motown much less Yuppietown. ..

Under - Cats and Hoosiers survive by less than seven...
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Over- UM by 23 - late second half collapse and errors by NIU, depth & fatigue doom Huskies as Britt D debuts in mop up role of too little & too late with consolation scores. They aint picked for first in BT just because they too are dawgs.

cyberdawg Wrote:Over - Beacats by 17.5 - Hurons suffer identity crisis without Sherrell as go to guy .....

I believe Sherrell is back with EMU.

He IS back but according to the coach is THIRD on depth chart as per recent Media Day and charts - You godda doubt that it 's less about his talent vrs attitude and a punitive measure for having pursued a transfer in the spring....hence the reason for my opening game footnote

cyberdawg Wrote:Over - 38 seems like alot but Iowa has pasted better teams in recent openers. Iowa by 40 +.....

Over - Beacats by 17.5 - Hurons suffer identity crisis without Sherrell as go to guy .....

Over - Spartans by 36 . Kent new QB and O stumbles early and often...

Over- Cavs by 40 - it could be worse given porous Broncos D still out to pasture ....


Over - OSU by 27 - not so neighborly slap down of a new coach...

Over - Badgers by 17. The Score of the Phantom of Camp Randall reigns supreme. Some things rarely change. ...

Over - Uconn by 24. Hell, those Huskies beat Toledo by as many or more in Motown much less Yuppietown. ..

Under - Cats and Hoosiers survive by less than seven...
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Over- UM by 23 - late second half collapse and errors by NIU, depth & fatigue doom Huskies as Britt D debuts in mop up role of too little & too late with consolation scores. They aint picked for first in BT just because they too are dawgs.

I like the spiciness of your saucey analysis. Good job, Cyber!

I'd love to see a Falcon win in Camp Randall. That would be excellent.

cyberdawg Wrote:Over - 38 seems like alot but Iowa has pasted better teams in recent openers. Iowa by 40 +.....

Over - Beacats by 17.5 - Hurons suffer identity crisis without Sherrell as go to guy .....

Over - Spartans by 36 . Kent new QB and O stumbles early and often...

Over- Cavs by 40 - it could be worse given porous Broncos D still out to pasture ....


Over - OSU by 27 - not so neighborly slap down of a new coach...

Over - Badgers by 17. The Score of the Phantom of Camp Randall reigns supreme. Some things rarely change. ...

Over - Uconn by 24. Hell, those Huskies beat Toledo by as many or more in Motown much less Yuppietown. ..

Under - Cats and Hoosiers survive by less than seven...
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Over- UM by 23 - late second half collapse and errors by NIU, depth & fatigue doom Huskies as Britt D debuts in mop up role of too little & too late with consolation scores. They aint picked for first in BT just because they too are dawgs.

I think Cybes is picking WAY too many favorites (8 of his 10 picks are on the favorite). Although its possible for all these favorites to cover, in theory, a spread gives both teams a 50/50 chance of winning. Plus, the 'dogs he picked are two of the three with the lowest spreads.

I'm not big on placing any wagers the first week of the season. Too many unknowns, in my opinion, although it's fun to have a little money on the Huskies if they win or cover (but not any of my serious funds devoted to football wagering).

Field Turf Wrote:Of course all MAC teams are on the road except for CMU. NU only a 14' fav vs. Ohio. I have to guess than that we'd be low single digit 'dogs when we play them the following week. Which games would any of you take the points in? 38' with Ball State over Iowa?


01/SEP/05
07:30 PM 123 Buffalo Bulls 124 Connecticut Huskies -18
07:00 PM 127 Eastern Michigan Eagles 128 Cincinnati Bearcats -12½
02/SEP/05
07:30 PM 149 Indiana Hoosiers -10½ 150 Central Michigan Chippewas
03/SEP/05
12:00 PM 153 Bowling Green Falcons 154 Wisconsin Badgers -5
12:00 PM 155 Ohio Bobcats 156 Northwestern Wildcats -14½
12:00 PM 157 Western Michigan Broncos 158 Virginia Cavaliers -32
12:00 PM 159 Ball State Cardinals 160 Iowa Hawkeyes -38½
12:00 PM 161 Kent Golden Flashes 162 Michigan State Spartans -18½
12:00 PM 163 Miami Ohio Redhawks 164 Ohio State Buckeyes -17
03:30 PM 165 Northern Illinois Huskies 166 Michigan Wolverines -18

What the lines should be:

Uconn -24
Buffalo

EMU
Cinncinati -14

Indiana -7
CMU

BGSU -3
Wisconsin

Ohio
NW -9

WMU
UVA -27

BSU
Iowa -42

KSU
Mich State -14

Miami-OH
OSU -23

NIU
Michigan -27

Maddawgz, I'll take your points with NIU and Miami. You booking these?

Field Turf Wrote:Maddawgz, I'll take your points with NIU and Miami. You booking these?

No I dont think so :) I just think that those would be good objective non-homer starting points for betting lines.

The two games I would absolutely have no idea which way to bet, if I were a betting man, is the KSU/MSU and Indiana/CMU games. It doesnt seem like you ever know what you are going to get out of MSU.

MaddDawgz02 Wrote:What the lines should be:

Uconn -24
Buffalo

EMU
Cinncinati -14

Indiana -7
CMU

BGSU -3
Wisconsin

Ohio
NW -9

WMU
UVA -27

BSU
Iowa -42

KSU
Mich State -14

Miami-OH
OSU -23

NIU
Michigan -27

:rofl:

I think you are missing the point of "Lines". But if anyone is willing to give me those points I'll take em!

-42 eh? I'll place a wager on that one :)

Quote: WMU, I don't really like the team, but that is just too many points to give up. Virgina is a team that I don't think will try to run the score up.

I agree. Take the 32 points.

Other games look about right.

Field Turf Wrote:Of course all MAC teams are on the road except for CMU. NU only a 14' fav vs. Ohio. I have to guess than that we'd be low single digit 'dogs when we play them the following week. Which games would any of you take the points in? 38' with Ball State over Iowa?


01/SEP/05
07:30 PM 123 Buffalo Bulls 124 Connecticut Huskies -18
07:00 PM 127 Eastern Michigan Eagles 128 Cincinnati Bearcats -12½
02/SEP/05
07:30 PM 149 Indiana Hoosiers -10½ 150 Central Michigan Chippewas
03/SEP/05
12:00 PM 153 Bowling Green Falcons 154 Wisconsin Badgers -5
12:00 PM 155 Ohio Bobcats 156 Northwestern Wildcats -14½
12:00 PM 157 Western Michigan Broncos 158 Virginia Cavaliers -32
12:00 PM 159 Ball State Cardinals 160 Iowa Hawkeyes -38½
12:00 PM 161 Kent Golden Flashes 162 Michigan State Spartans -18½
12:00 PM 163 Miami Ohio Redhawks 164 Ohio State Buckeyes -17
03:30 PM 165 Northern Illinois Huskies 166 Michigan Wolverines -18

Gimme, EMU, CMU, WMU, Miami and NIU.

I don't have the same confidence a lot of people have in BG. They struggled mightily against a power running team like NIU, and UW mirrors that philosophy.

I refuse to put money on Buffalo. NU will blast Ohio. Ball St sucks royally, and lost their best two offensive players. I don't know what Kent has at this point.

On a side note for some of you guys looking to make bets on these games, a fun thing to look back on in terms of research is what type of coach the major favorites have. Is he a guy who will run it up and show the world he has a team that can beat Ball state by 200 pts. Like the old Nebraska coaches. OR is the coach the type of guy who likes to get all of his kids in in OOC games to help stem the flow of transfers.

College football betting unlike a lot of other sports really depends on the coaches.

NIUGAMBLER Wrote:On a side note for some of you guys looking to make bets on these games, a fun thing to look back on in terms of research is what type of coach the major favorites have. Is he a guy who will run it up and show the world he has a team that can beat Ball state by 200 pts. Like the old Nebraska coaches. OR is the coach the type of guy who likes to get all of his kids in in OOC games to help stem the flow of transfers.

College football betting unlike a lot of other sports really depends on the coaches.

That's a valid point.

Re: Iowa vs. Ball State 38.5 pts. Kirk Ferentz doesn't strike me as a guy that wants to run it up. Sometimes it is unavoidable. They beat Kent in week 1 last year 39-7, with Kent's only 7 coming on a 99 yard INT return. Hand it off, and you're probably talking about a 42-0 win at least.

I fail to see how BSU, in particular, is going to be any better this year. Givens was a stud RB, and Ridgeway had 105 receptions.

Teams on the winning side of college blowouts are often accused of running up the score.

If you keep your starters in long after the outcome has been decided, I guess the accusation would hold, but teams that do that can harm themselves in the long run, as their starters could still get hurt, and they miss out of giving their bench playing time.

If your bench starts scoring TD's is that running up the score?

For example, when the Huskies put a game away early next season (which I hope will happen regularly ), will Coach Joe put Clanton and Chambers in the game and tell them to stay out of the endzone, as that could be seen as running up the score? Just gain a few yards, and fall down.