Now lets see if Duke has the balls to rectify their cowardly handling of these young men. Also, that DA Nifong should be removed from office and that trash can of a human being that made the false accusations should be charged with making false accusations.

Nifong should go to jail for his conduct. He pressed this purely for political purposes. There was never a case from the start. These guys were very close to being placed on the sex offenders list so Nifong could get re-elected.

Duke needs to reconsider it's policies applying the innocent until proven guilty standard, instead of the guilty until innocent one they use now. Let people charged stay in school on scholarship and not participate in varsity sports. If they are found guilty, make them repay the scholarship award.

Duke handled it just like any other school would.

And if Duke had kept them on the team, you guys would have griped about low-class BCS school standards. Nifong was wrong. Duke was right. Now there are about to be a whole bunch of lawsuits, and rightly so. Nifong screwed up the lives of 3 young men. Not to mention all of the Duke players that lost a year of their sport, and their coach that resigned over the situation.

Nifong is rightly done in public office, but he won't be getting sued. He was doing his duty as a public official (or in this case, not doing it) and is bullet proof with immunity.

I believe Duke offered re-admission to those who had left, but it's too little too late.

The public had a chance to vote this joker (Nifong) out of office, but frankly their voters are blind and dumb (reminds me of Nagin's electorate...). The only way that gets fixed is if the NC Bar revokes his license.

The following should happen as a result of this (correct) dismissal:

1) Nifong should face a civil lawsuit.

2) NC AG Roy Cooper should press criminal misconduct charges because from where I sit, Nifong -- who was only appointed to his post, not elected -- misused his position to better his chances of being elected. He knew what he was doing, IMHO.

3) Jesse Jackson and all the so-called Black leaders need to publicly apologize for disregarding the basic premise of "innocent-until-proven-guilty" -- especially after they carried on despite the initial "0-for-Duke Lacross Team" DNA test results.

Had members of the NC Central baseball team been accused of raping a white stripper who happened to be a student at Duke, Jackson would have been preaching "Let's wait and honor the system of justice."

4) Duke's president and faculty share some responsibility as well, seeing how they overreacted to the point of canceling a LAX season for no good reason. They totally threw these kids under a bus. They, too, should apologize.

CollegeCard Wrote:Nifong is rightly done in public office, but he won't be getting sued. He was doing his duty as a public official (or in this case, not doing it) and is bullet proof with immunity.

Their lawyers said today that they will be launching a civil suit.

In The Know Wrote:

CollegeCard Wrote:Nifong is rightly done in public office, but he won't be getting sued. He was doing his duty as a public official (or in this case, not doing it) and is bullet proof with immunity.

Their lawyers said today that they will be launching a civil suit.

Yes, I saw that tonight. I thought it was absolute under state law, but apparentely there are some small exceptions they could prevail on. It is very rare for someone to win when suing a DA. He won't be headed to jail, as someone wanted in the thread. He likely will be disbarred after his Friday meeting with the NC bar panel.

To prevail, they will have to show he acted outside his DA duties. They will have a better shot if they get it in fed court.

Not to burst the bubble. But the players were underage and drinking and had strippers at their party. Duke is loosely affiliated with the Methodist Church. I suspect those activities violated school and team policy. The school punishments probably were not unusual. These guys were I believe scholarship athletes at a private school. If they violated school policy, their scholarships were in play. And as students at a private school, the school can be as arbitrary as it wants in who goes there and who gets booted out.

The one big apology should come from the media. Media outlets don't tell you the name of the alleged rape victim, but splatter the perp walk on the front page of the accused. In these types of crimes, they should keep the name of the accused secret as well until he is convicted. If these players ever apply for a job in the future and someone googles their name, "accused of rape" comes up 1000 times.

EastStang Wrote:The one big apology should come from the media. Media outlets don't tell you the name of the alleged rape victim, but splatter the perp walk on the front page of the accused. In these types of crimes, they should keep the name of the accused secret as well until he is convicted. If these players ever apply for a job in the future and someone googles their name, "accused of rape" comes up 1000 times.

Here's WP media critic Howie Kurtz' take on that:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/con...id=topnews

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4) Duke's president and faculty share some responsibility as well, seeing how they overreacted to the point of canceling a LAX season for no good reason. They totally threw these kids under a bus. They, too, should apologize.

The season was cancelled for the entire team - not just the 3/46 who were accused. And i also doubt that 46/46 were at the party. A lot of the "kids" at the party were not underage, unless the entire team was made up of freshmen and sophomores.

CollegeCard Wrote:

In The Know Wrote:

CollegeCard Wrote:Nifong is rightly done in public office, but he won't be getting sued. He was doing his duty as a public official (or in this case, not doing it) and is bullet proof with immunity.

Their lawyers said today that they will be launching a civil suit.

Yes, I saw that tonight. I thought it was absolute under state law, but apparentely there are some small exceptions they could prevail on. It is very rare for someone to win when suing a DA. He won't be headed to jail, as someone wanted in the thread. He likely will be disbarred after his Friday meeting with the NC bar panel.

To prevail, they will have to show he acted outside his DA duties. They will have a better shot if they get it in fed court.

Given the comments of the state Attorney General about the lack of credible evidence, I don't foresee too many problems convincing a majority of jurors in a civil suit that Nifong was way in the wrong.

TMcCarty Wrote:

CollegeCard Wrote:

In The Know Wrote:

CollegeCard Wrote:Nifong is rightly done in public office, but he won't be getting sued. He was doing his duty as a public official (or in this case, not doing it) and is bullet proof with immunity.

Their lawyers said today that they will be launching a civil suit.

Yes, I saw that tonight. I thought it was absolute under state law, but apparentely there are some small exceptions they could prevail on. It is very rare for someone to win when suing a DA. He won't be headed to jail, as someone wanted in the thread. He likely will be disbarred after his Friday meeting with the NC bar panel.

To prevail, they will have to show he acted outside his DA duties. They will have a better shot if they get it in fed court.

Given the comments of the state Attorney General about the lack of credible evidence, I don't foresee too many problems convincing a majority of jurors in a civil suit that Nifong was way in the wrong.

There's actually a tort for what happened. It's called wrongful prosecution. They'll sue Nifong for it and win, especially after NC disbars him.

Wonder if Al Sharpen and Jesse Jackson is going to be made to give those 3 players and apology for all the mean and hateful things they said about the young men before they were ever went before a judge. Not trying to start sh!t here, but those two guys are suppose to be preachers and yet they act NOTHING like preachers... passing judgement and not accepting forgiveness..

MadEagle Wrote:Wonder if Al Sharpen and Jesse Jackson is going to be made to give those 3 players and apology for all the mean and hateful things they said about the young men before they were ever went before a judge. Not trying to start sh!t here, but those two guys are suppose to be preachers and yet they act NOTHING like preachers... passing judgement and not accepting forgiveness..

I watched Bill O'Reilly's show a few days ago when he had Sharpton on. Sharpton danced around the question when O'Reilly repeatedly asked him if he would come down as hard on rappers like Ludacris for making demeaning remarks as he had on Imus. I give Sharpton credit, though, for at least appearing on O'Reilly's show . . . Jackson seems to prefer talking to interviewers who don't challenge his views.

Lets keep in mind that Finnery was already on probation for seriously beating up another person. This was not a model citizen to start with. Maybe we should be asking why this person always finds himself in these predicaments. Just because nothing could be proven does not necessarily mean nothing happened. They may have just gotten lucky.

Here's an audio summary from a reporter from the Raleigh News & Observer who has followed this case from Day 1.

Great summary!

http://www.newsobserver.com/content/mult...crosse.mp3

88 Duke professors should take up legal donations and turn up the volume to help the 3 accused pay their legal bills.

They had no problem turning up the volume to circumvent the principle of "presumed innocent until proven guilty".

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CollegeCard Wrote:Nifong is rightly done in public office, but he won't be getting sued. He was doing his duty as a public official (or in this case, not doing it) and is bullet proof with immunity.

His kevlar vest is getting ready to be shredded by misconduct charges and disbarment.

When Nifong is done being raked over the coals by the legal profession for gross negligence, violation of professional ethics, willfully withholding exculpatory evidence and false prosecution, he's going to be up to his gonads in civil prosecution.

He'll be lucky to hold down a job as Don Imus' radio sidekick.