I personally hate Title IX because of all the men that have lost scholarships or their right to play athletics because of women. Two wrongs don't make a right.

If you want Title IX...here's my amended version, that works for everyone.

ELIMINATE FOOTBALL FROM TITLE IX CONSIDERATION

Football is the money-making sport for most programs. Women's groups are insane to want to cut football scholarships. That's called "biting the hand that feeds you". It also is going to destroy some athletic programs altogether if feminists have their way.

The solution is to take football out of the Title IX equation. Make it to where there is an equal amount of women's scholarships to men's...but don't count the 85 football scholarships. You then are able to provide an athletic program with more men's programs and athletes..keeping all the women's programs that you have. Men's sports usually are self-sufficient, so no worries to the added programs.

WPS

I absolutely HATE how in this country the minority gets more rights than the F'N MAJORITY! The majority is suppose to respect the rights of the minority, not bend over and get raped by them!

That goes for:
- NAACP
- Affirmative Action
- Title IX
- Minority Scholarships
- That women's group that wanted the 9/11 monument to include a woman - otherwise they'd protest
- Jesse Jackson and his morons

etc. etc. etc. etc.

There's so many groups to name, so little time.

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Jeremy...read this, see if you agree

I'm A Bad American ... By Ted Nugent

I like big trucks, big boats, big houses, and naturally, pretty women.

I believe the money I make belongs to me and my family, not some midlevel governmental functionary with a bad comb-over who wants to give it away to crack addicts squirting out babies. I don't care about appearing compassionate.

I think playing with toy guns doesn't make you a killer - I believe ignoring your kids and giving them Prozac might.
I think I'm doing better than the homeless.

I don't think being a minority makes you noble or victimized. I have the right not to be tolerant of others because they are different, weird or make me mad.
This is my life to live, and not necessarily up to others expectations.

I know what SEX is and there are not varying degrees of it.
I don't celebrate Kwanzaa. But if you want to that's fine; just don't
feel like everyone else should have to.

I believe that if you are selling me a Dairy Queen shake, a pack of
cigarettes, or hotel room you do it in English. As of matter of fact, if you are an American citizen you should speak English.

My uncles and forefathers shouldn't have had to die in vain so you can
leave the countries you were born in to come disrespect ours, and make us bend to your will. Get over it.

I think the cops have every right to shoot your sorry butt if you're
running from them after they tell you to stop. If you can't understand the word 'freeze' or 'stop' in English, see the previous line.

I don't use the excuse "it's for the children" as a shield for unpopular opinions or actions.

I know how to count votes and I feel much safer letting a machine with
no political affiliation do a recount when needed.
I know what the definition of lying is, and it isn't based on the word
"is"-- ever.

I don't think just because you were not born in this country, you qualify for any special loan programs, gov't sponsored bank loans, etc., so you can open a hotel, 7-Eleven, trinket shop, or any [****] thing else, while the indigenous peoples can't get past a high school education because they can't afford it.

I didn't take the initiative in inventing the Internet.
I thought the Taco Bell dog was funny.

I want them to bring back safe and sane fireworks.
I believe no one ever died because of something Ozzy Osbourne, Ice-T or Marilyn Manson sang, but that doesn't mean I want to listen to that crap from someone else's car when I'm stopped at a red light. But I respect your right to.

I think that being a student doesn't give you any more enlightenment than working at Blockbuster or Jack In The Box.

I don't want to eat or drink anything with the words light, lite or fat-free on the package.
Our soldiers did not go to some foreign country and risk their lives
in vain and defend our Constitution so that decades later you can tell me it's a living document ever changing and is open to interpretation. The guys who wrote it were light years ahead of anyone today, and they meant what they said -- now leave the document alone, or there's going to be trouble.

I don't hate the rich.

I help the poor.
I know wrestling is fake.

I've never owned, or was a slave, and a large percentage of our forefathers weren't wealthy enough to own one either. Please stop blaming me because some prior white people were idiots -- and remember, tons of white, Indian, Chinese, and other races have been enslaved too -- it was wrong for every one of them.

I believe a self-righteous liberal with a cause is more dangerous than a Hell's Angel with an attitude.

I want to know exactly which church is it where the "Reverend" Jessie Jackson preaches; and, what exactly is his job function.

I own a gun, you can own a gun, and any red blooded American should be allowed to own a gun, but if you use it in a crime, then you will serve the time.
I think Bill Gates has every right to keep every penny he made and continue to make more. If it makes you mad, then invent the next operating system that's better and put your name on the building.

I don't believe in hate crime legislation. Even suggesting it makes me
mad. You're telling me that someone who is a minority, gay, disabled, another nationality, or otherwise different from the mainstream of this
country has more value as a human being than I do as a white male.
If someone kills anyone, I'd say that it's a hate crime. We don't need more laws! Let's enforce the ones we already have.
I think turkey bacon, turkey beef, turkey fake anything sucks.

I believe that it doesn't take a village to raise a child -- it takes a parent with the [****] (guts) to stand up to the kid and spank his butt and say "NO!" when it's necessary to do so.

I'll admit that the only movie that ever made me cry was Ole Yeller.

I didn't realize Dr. Seuss was a genius until I had a kid.

I will not be frowned upon or be looked down upon or be made to keep silent because I have these beliefs and opinions. I thought this country allowed me that right.

I will not conform or compromise just to keep from hurting somebody's feelings.

I'm neither angry nor disenfranchised, no matter how desperately the mainstream media would like the world to believe otherwise.

Yes, I guess by some people's definition, I may be a bad American.
BUT THAT'S JUST TOUGH !!!

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by calling_the_hogs:
<img border="0" alt="[Cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/cheers.gif" />

Jeremy...read this, see if you agree

I'm A Bad American ... By Ted Nugent

I like big trucks, big boats, big houses, and naturally, pretty women.

I believe the money I make belongs to me and my family, not some midlevel governmental functionary with a bad comb-over who wants to give it away to crack addicts squirting out babies. I don't care about appearing compassionate.

I think playing with toy guns doesn't make you a killer - I believe ignoring your kids and giving them Prozac might.
I think I'm doing better than the homeless.

I don't think being a minority makes you noble or victimized. I have the right not to be tolerant of others because they are different, weird or make me mad.
This is my life to live, and not necessarily up to others expectations.

I know what SEX is and there are not varying degrees of it.
I don't celebrate Kwanzaa. But if you want to that's fine; just don't
feel like everyone else should have to.

I believe that if you are selling me a Dairy Queen shake, a pack of
cigarettes, or hotel room you do it in English. As of matter of fact, if you are an American citizen you should speak English.

My uncles and forefathers shouldn't have had to die in vain so you can
leave the countries you were born in to come disrespect ours, and make us bend to your will. Get over it.

I think the cops have every right to shoot your sorry butt if you're
running from them after they tell you to stop. If you can't understand the word 'freeze' or 'stop' in English, see the previous line.

I don't use the excuse "it's for the children" as a shield for unpopular opinions or actions.

I know how to count votes and I feel much safer letting a machine with
no political affiliation do a recount when needed.
I know what the definition of lying is, and it isn't based on the word
"is"-- ever.

I don't think just because you were not born in this country, you qualify for any special loan programs, gov't sponsored bank loans, etc., so you can open a hotel, 7-Eleven, trinket shop, or any [****] thing else, while the indigenous peoples can't get past a high school education because they can't afford it.

I didn't take the initiative in inventing the Internet.
I thought the Taco Bell dog was funny.

I want them to bring back safe and sane fireworks.
I believe no one ever died because of something Ozzy Osbourne, Ice-T or Marilyn Manson sang, but that doesn't mean I want to listen to that crap from someone else's car when I'm stopped at a red light. But I respect your right to.

I think that being a student doesn't give you any more enlightenment than working at Blockbuster or Jack In The Box.

I don't want to eat or drink anything with the words light, lite or fat-free on the package.
Our soldiers did not go to some foreign country and risk their lives
in vain and defend our Constitution so that decades later you can tell me it's a living document ever changing and is open to interpretation. The guys who wrote it were light years ahead of anyone today, and they meant what they said -- now leave the document alone, or there's going to be trouble.

I don't hate the rich.

I help the poor.
I know wrestling is fake.

I've never owned, or was a slave, and a large percentage of our forefathers weren't wealthy enough to own one either. Please stop blaming me because some prior white people were idiots -- and remember, tons of white, Indian, Chinese, and other races have been enslaved too -- it was wrong for every one of them.

I believe a self-righteous liberal with a cause is more dangerous than a Hell's Angel with an attitude.

I want to know exactly which church is it where the "Reverend" Jessie Jackson preaches; and, what exactly is his job function.

I own a gun, you can own a gun, and any red blooded American should be allowed to own a gun, but if you use it in a crime, then you will serve the time.
I think Bill Gates has every right to keep every penny he made and continue to make more. If it makes you mad, then invent the next operating system that's better and put your name on the building.

I don't believe in hate crime legislation. Even suggesting it makes me
mad. You're telling me that someone who is a minority, gay, disabled, another nationality, or otherwise different from the mainstream of this
country has more value as a human being than I do as a white male.
If someone kills anyone, I'd say that it's a hate crime. We don't need more laws! Let's enforce the ones we already have.
I think turkey bacon, turkey beef, turkey fake anything sucks.

I believe that it doesn't take a village to raise a child -- it takes a parent with the [****] (guts) to stand up to the kid and spank his butt and say "NO!" when it's necessary to do so.

I'll admit that the only movie that ever made me cry was Ole Yeller.

I didn't realize Dr. Seuss was a genius until I had a kid.

I will not be frowned upon or be looked down upon or be made to keep silent because I have these beliefs and opinions. I thought this country allowed me that right.

I will not conform or compromise just to keep from hurting somebody's feelings.

I'm neither angry nor disenfranchised, no matter how desperately the mainstream media would like the world to believe otherwise.

Yes, I guess by some people's definition, I may be a bad American.
BUT THAT'S JUST TOUGH !!!</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">ABSO-FREAKIN-LUTELY.

I agree with EVERYTHING there.

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by calling_the_hogs:
<img border="0" alt="[Cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/cheers.gif" />

Jeremy...read this, see if you agree

I'm A Bad American ... By Ted Nugent

I like big trucks, big boats, big houses, and naturally, pretty women.

I believe the money I make belongs to me and my family, not some midlevel governmental functionary with a bad comb-over who wants to give it away to crack addicts squirting out babies. I don't care about appearing compassionate.

I think playing with toy guns doesn't make you a killer - I believe ignoring your kids and giving them Prozac might.
I think I'm doing better than the homeless.

I don't think being a minority makes you noble or victimized. I have the right not to be tolerant of others because they are different, weird or make me mad.
This is my life to live, and not necessarily up to others expectations.

I know what SEX is and there are not varying degrees of it.
I don't celebrate Kwanzaa. But if you want to that's fine; just don't
feel like everyone else should have to.

I believe that if you are selling me a Dairy Queen shake, a pack of
cigarettes, or hotel room you do it in English. As of matter of fact, if you are an American citizen you should speak English.

My uncles and forefathers shouldn't have had to die in vain so you can
leave the countries you were born in to come disrespect ours, and make us bend to your will. Get over it.

I think the cops have every right to shoot your sorry butt if you're
running from them after they tell you to stop. If you can't understand the word 'freeze' or 'stop' in English, see the previous line.

I don't use the excuse "it's for the children" as a shield for unpopular opinions or actions.

I know how to count votes and I feel much safer letting a machine with
no political affiliation do a recount when needed.
I know what the definition of lying is, and it isn't based on the word
"is"-- ever.

I don't think just because you were not born in this country, you qualify for any special loan programs, gov't sponsored bank loans, etc., so you can open a hotel, 7-Eleven, trinket shop, or any [****] thing else, while the indigenous peoples can't get past a high school education because they can't afford it.

I didn't take the initiative in inventing the Internet.
I thought the Taco Bell dog was funny.

I want them to bring back safe and sane fireworks.
I believe no one ever died because of something Ozzy Osbourne, Ice-T or Marilyn Manson sang, but that doesn't mean I want to listen to that crap from someone else's car when I'm stopped at a red light. But I respect your right to.

I think that being a student doesn't give you any more enlightenment than working at Blockbuster or Jack In The Box.

I don't want to eat or drink anything with the words light, lite or fat-free on the package.
Our soldiers did not go to some foreign country and risk their lives
in vain and defend our Constitution so that decades later you can tell me it's a living document ever changing and is open to interpretation. The guys who wrote it were light years ahead of anyone today, and they meant what they said -- now leave the document alone, or there's going to be trouble.

I don't hate the rich.

I help the poor.
I know wrestling is fake.

I've never owned, or was a slave, and a large percentage of our forefathers weren't wealthy enough to own one either. Please stop blaming me because some prior white people were idiots -- and remember, tons of white, Indian, Chinese, and other races have been enslaved too -- it was wrong for every one of them.

I believe a self-righteous liberal with a cause is more dangerous than a Hell's Angel with an attitude.

I want to know exactly which church is it where the "Reverend" Jessie Jackson preaches; and, what exactly is his job function.

I own a gun, you can own a gun, and any red blooded American should be allowed to own a gun, but if you use it in a crime, then you will serve the time.
I think Bill Gates has every right to keep every penny he made and continue to make more. If it makes you mad, then invent the next operating system that's better and put your name on the building.

I don't believe in hate crime legislation. Even suggesting it makes me
mad. You're telling me that someone who is a minority, gay, disabled, another nationality, or otherwise different from the mainstream of this
country has more value as a human being than I do as a white male.
If someone kills anyone, I'd say that it's a hate crime. We don't need more laws! Let's enforce the ones we already have.
I think turkey bacon, turkey beef, turkey fake anything sucks.

I believe that it doesn't take a village to raise a child -- it takes a parent with the [****] (guts) to stand up to the kid and spank his butt and say "NO!" when it's necessary to do so.

I'll admit that the only movie that ever made me cry was Ole Yeller.

I didn't realize Dr. Seuss was a genius until I had a kid.

I will not be frowned upon or be looked down upon or be made to keep silent because I have these beliefs and opinions. I thought this country allowed me that right.

I will not conform or compromise just to keep from hurting somebody's feelings.

I'm neither angry nor disenfranchised, no matter how desperately the mainstream media would like the world to believe otherwise.

Yes, I guess by some people's definition, I may be a bad American.
BUT THAT'S JUST TOUGH !!!</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">AMEN!!! That's one of the best articles I've read in a long time.

if I become rich, I'm starting a white male only scholarship.

No, I'm not joking.

I agree. Nugent Rocks!

<img border="0" alt="[Cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/cheers.gif" />

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by georgia_tech_swagger:
if I become rich, I'm starting a white male only scholarship.

No, I'm not joking.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Let's seriously think about that...I mean in a unbiased, fair world, could anyone honestly do anything to stop something like that from happening without being a total hipocrite?

NO! There are minority scholarships, there is the UNCF (United Negro College Fund), there are scholarships just for women, why can't there one for white males?

I'm treading on thin ice. I don't want to sound racist, sexist, or what have you...I'm not that way...I'm just looking at the whole picture. They have already broken it down where the only group that doesn't have any breaks is white males. There are scholarships and many other things for females, for minority males, for minorities in general, etc.

Now THAT is what I call equal rights! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="rolleyes.gif" />

<small>[ June 25, 2002, 01:20 AM: Message edited by: JoltinJacket ]</small>

Here is an article that shows just how far out of line title ix has gotten. This occured at a High School on Oklahoma where the baseball boosters raised money for a field then the schools got sued for not providing similar facilities to the softball team. Read on.
<a href="http://www.detnews.com/2002/highschools/0206/18/f06-517871.htm" target="_blank">Great example of poor title IX enforcement</a>
This kinda hit home as someone who works with HS athletes (I'm a HS ref in Basketball, football, volleyball and umpire for Baseball and softball) in a state where the MHSAA was sued since girls VB and BB were in different seasons. This case is now before teh US 6th circuit court of appeals in Cincinatti.

<small>[ June 25, 2002, 09:09 AM: Message edited by: klordway ]</small>

Man, you don't want to get me started on affirmative action.

I am a white male who went to high school in Arizona. My high school is nationally acclaimed and I had excellent test scores. In spite of that, I was not offered a scholarship to either of the major in state universities(ASU, UA). At ASU the only way you ever get a full ride is if you are a minority or a female wishing to enter the field of engineering. At the UA the only way you get a scholly is if you are a minority. I had academic scholarship offers come from every other school I was accepted at.

F*ck affirmative action. It's an idea that seemed good in theory yet was abused in practice. Now, any calls to cut back on affirmative action are met with cries of racism by fear-mongers such as the Reverend Jesse Jackson. F*ck them and f*ck him too. When I have children there better damn well be a blind admissions policy to every public university in this country(fn1). The California state university system mandated a blind admissions policy about 5 years ago and the study results were amazing. There was an initial drop in minority acceptances because *guess what*, they weren't facking qualified. Now, only 5 years later the number of minority students in the state university system has already climbed back to the level it was when affirmative action was used to decide who got in. The minorities are earning their way in. By giving someone an advantage you do not inspire them to work hard, or to achieve things on their own merit. Once the impetus was there for these minorities to earn their way into the school system the same as any white kid down the block they got a fire lit under their asses and started doing it.

Put me down as one liberal who does not fall in line with affirmative action.

And most of you already know what I think of the degradation of men's athletic programs so Nancy and Polly can have their little love fest playing field hockey.

By the way, how many of you can tell me which party was responsible for the legislation that initially created Title 9....you'll be shocked when you find out.

---------footnotes
1) Not that it matters. My child will be a Demon Deacon anyway.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by georgia_tech_swagger:
if I become rich, I'm starting a white male only scholarship.

No, I'm not joking.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">We need it. Check this out:

Degrees of Separation
Gender Gap Among College Graduates Has Educators Wondering Where the Men Are

By Michael A. Fletcher
Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, June 25, 2002; Page A01

BALTIMORE -- As Morgan State University President Earl S. Richardson surveyed the sea of newly minted graduates at the school's 126th commencement last month, his joy was tempered by a question that has grown too con****uous to ignore: Where are all the men?

Not only were the head of student government, the senior class president and 96 of Morgan's 141 honorstudents women, but so were two-thirds of the university's 860 graduates.

At colleges and universities across the United States, the proportion of bachelor's degrees awarded to women reached a post-war high this year at an estimated 57 percent. The gender gap is even greater among Hispanics -- only 40 percent of that ethnic group's college graduates are male -- and African Americans, who are now seeing two women earn bachelor's degrees for every man.

The trend, which began in the mid-1980s, has sparked concern among everyone from business leaders to demographers, who applaud the growing academic success of women but maintain that the lopsided graduation rate may foretell significant problems.

"This is new. We have thrown the gender switch," said Christina Hoff Sommers, a resident scholar at the American Enterprise Institute and author of "The War Against Boys." "What does it mean in the long run that we have females who are significantly more literate, significantly more educated than their male counterparts? It is likely to create a lot of social problems. This does not bode well for anyone."

Some researchers say the trend could herald a shift in the nation's social dynamic, with educated women unable to find mates of equal educational backgrounds. Business groups are beginning to worry about a possible dwindling share of men to fill top corporate jobs. Last week, the Business Roundtable, an organization of chief executives of some of the nation's top corporations, commissioned a study on the subject.

"As a nation, we simply can't afford to have half of our population not developing the skill sets that we are going to need to go into the future," said Susan L. Traiman, director of the group's education initiative.

Researchers say the growing disparity between the sexes reflects not just the increasing success of women but also the educational problems of men, who account for 51 percent of the nation's college-age population. High school graduation rates for men are now slightly lower than those for women, and male students make up the vast majority of those enrolled in special education classes.

"Girls have been getting stronger and stronger and boys weaker, in almost all the ways that count academically," Sommers said.

After years of being shrugged off, the disparity is prompting increased action around the country. Earlier this month, researchers from Harvard University, the University of Michigan and the United Negro College Fund agreed to study the issue.

"This is a powerful issue we need to stop talking about in generalities and really dig into," said Michael L. Lomax, president of Dillard University in New Orleans.

Lomax has overseen a marketing push that has swelled the school's enrollment from 1,500 to more than 2,100 students during his five-year tenure. But about two-thirds of the applicants and 70 percent of the students at the historically black university are women, despite efforts to recruit men.

"We just can't figure out how to get more male applicants, and we're not going to turn students down on the basis on gender," Lomax said. "I don't understand what is happening in the male community that is making education seem less attractive and less compelling."

In the late 1990s, the University of Georgia began giving an edge in admissions to male applicants, hoping to balance an enrollment that was then about 55 percent female. The university halted the practice in the face of a federal lawsuit.

Men had made up the majority of the nation's college graduates since at least 1870, when the first national survey of bachelor's degrees awarded by colleges and universities found 7,993 male graduates, 1,378 female.

Except for a brief period during World War II, that remained the case until female college enrollment overtook male enrollment in the late 1970s. By the early 1980s, women began outnumbering men among four-year college graduates.

Since then, the number of female bachelor's degree recipients has risen to 698,000 this year, according to U.S. Department of Education estimates. The number of male college graduates has increased much more slowly,to 529,000.

"Women are deeply engaged in the educational process, while the boys are stuck where they were decades ago," said Tom Mortenson, a senior scholar at the Pell Institute for the Study of Opportunity in Higher Education, a Washington research organization.

Nobody really knows why this is the case, though theories abound. Some researchers believe women have learning styles that are more conducive to the college classroom. Some say men are more vulnerable to the lures of popular culture. Others say men -- particularly black and Hispanic students, who typically are from poorer families than whites -- feel more pressure than women to work while in school.

"There is still the notion that men should be making their own way," Richardson said. "If they come to campus without money, they want to find a job."

Jay Carrington Chunn, Morgan's associate vice president for academic affairs, said the school has implemented mentoring and tutoring programs aimed at men. Still, "graduation rates are higher, achievement rates are higher and leadership roles are 10 times greater" for women.

Some Morgan students said this simply reflects how serious women are when it comes to school. Muriel M. Dow, 19, a junior telecommunications major who works in marketing for a major record label while carrying a 3.58 grade-point average in school, said, "Females are just more motivated to get into the workforce."

Justin Jones-Fosu, 20, a marketing major at Morgan, said many of his male counterparts spend their college days hanging out in the center of campus "in our social places."

An annual survey of U.S. college freshmen conducted for the Cooperative Institutional Research Program, a national study of higher education overseen by the University of California at Los Angeles, has found consistently that men are more likely than women to spend large amounts of time watching television, partying and exercising during their senior year of high school. Women, meanwhile, report spending more time than men studying or doing homework, talking with teachers outside of class and doing volunteer work.

Similarly, data collected by the College Board indicate that more female students than male students are enrolled in high school academic or college prep programs, that girls are more likely than boys to take high school honors courses in most subjects and that girls report having higher academic aspirations than boys.

"I hesitate to say this, but it seems that women have an orientation not only toward achievement, but also toward being good and pleasing others," said Linda Sax, a UCLA education professor, who is writing a book about how women and men develop differently in college. "I think that accounts for some of women's higher achievement rates."

Women began making substantial educational improvements after the passage of Title IX, the 1972 law that barred sexual discrimination in educational institutions that spend federal money. But even now that women outpace men in receiving bachelor's and master's degrees, they still receive fewer doctoral and professional degrees and continue to lag in a handful of well-paying fields, including engineering and the sciences.

"Title IX has promoted substantial opportunities for women and has been responsible for a wide range of improvements," said Jocelyn Samuels, vice president of the National Women's Law Center, a Washington, D.C., advocacy group. "The job is not yet done."

Still, some researchers and college administrators believe that the shifting male-female balance on campus portends a seismic shift in the nation's social norms, with college-educated women having growing problems finding mates of equal educational footing.

"It is flat out an unhealthy social situation when the gender imbalance gets that bad," Mortenson said. "Already, the lack of marriable men is a hot topic of conversation among black women. They can't see it now, but that is going to happen for white women in the future. You don't create these marriageable men out of the blue at age 30 or 35."

Many ****ysts believe the trend will not abate until educators know more about what is going on in the development of boys and girls that makes for increasingly disparate educational outcomes.

"One of the first things we need to know is what is happening to boys right after high school," said Michael T. Nettles, a University of Michigan education professor and researcher. "This is something that needs to be carefully examined before we jump to any firm conclusions about its implications for employment opportunities, long-term economic benefits and families."

Gotta love the filter.

con-s-p-i-c-uous

a-n-a-l-ysts

..and forgot the link:

<a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A38887-2002Jun24.html" target="_blank">http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A38887-2002Jun24.html</a>

<small>[ June 25, 2002, 10:09 AM: Message edited by: whos_your_dawgy ]</small>

This hacks me off to no end.

Here in Arkansas, some liberals want state money cut from the UA for the following statistics.

1) The UA's male:female ratio is 48:52
According to them..not enough women.
2) The UA's white:minority ratio is 89:11
Of that 11%, 6% are African-American
They're howling about that...though they also seem to forget...the Fayetteville metro area is only 2% black.
3) The UA received a gift from a family that gives to the Republican party..showing bias.
Ok, and if Mrs. Walton handed you a check for $300 million..you'd toss that aside?

Politics make me sick...I end up getting screwed every time. I'm creating a new political party, the "Screw this s*it I'm having a beer" party. <img border="0" alt="[Cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/cheers.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[Drinky]" title="" src="graemlins/drinky.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[Drinky]" title="" src="graemlins/drinky.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[Cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/cheers.gif" /> The party's platform is what Ted Nugent said above. May the revolution begin.

WPS

<small>[ June 25, 2002, 11:24 AM: Message edited by: calling_the_hogs ]</small>

The great nuclear waste dump that is South Carolina casts its 9 electoral college votes to the "screw this **** I'm having a beer" pary.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Liquid Karma:


And most of you already know what I think of the degradation of men's athletic programs so Nancy and Polly can have their little love fest playing field hockey.

By the way, how many of you can tell me which party was responsible for the legislation that initially created Title 9....you'll be shocked when you find out.

</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I don't have a problem with Title IX as written in it's time. I have a problem with the way that the Clinton administration interpreted and enforced the law. If interest is not there for the women's teams don't cut men's teams to keep proportionality. I ref HS sports in Michigan and have seen Larger Class C schools (243-491 students) not be able to field Frosh teams for girls due to lack of interest (of course schedules have to be cut at the last minute to cover this). Can you explain to me why it would also be a title IX violation to hold opposite seasons for 5 dual gender sports (in MI they have BB, Tennis, swimming, Soccer and golf in seasons different thatn the guys and VB is a winter sport too. This allows our HS's ot have Frosh. teams).

BTTT...this was good discussion once... like to start that again

WPS