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(05-09-2018 10:20 AM)Monarchblue Wrote:  

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(05-09-2018 07:16 AM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  Governor's classic. ODU 63, UVA 61.

But if that's an issue, wouldn't UVa. want revenge for screwing up their NCAA chances? Plus that was a veritable lifetime ago in college basketball years.

(05-08-2018 09:50 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  We fit into a very small (maybe just one) list of teams in the state that they could actually lose too and be embarrassed by it. GMU isn't going to beat them, neither is JMU, and a VCU loss isn't embarrassing. Our profile sucks right now, but people who know what's really going on know we are good enough to steal one from a good team.

Perhaps, but that's one hell of a needle they're trying to thread. They have also done a home-and-home with GW and an effective home-and-home (road game at the Hornets' arena) with Davidson, both programs in ODU's neighborhood. It's one thing for Tech to big-time schools (even if they have no real cause to), but Virginia has been surprisingly open about scheduling mid-major programs — except ODU.

I have mentioned that some of our fans have a skewed perception of what we look like to an outsider at this point in time, you have just demonstrated that. We are nowhere near Davidson's "neighborhood", and GW has one huge advantage over us in perception, even if they are typically not better than us on the court, they are in the A10. Our profile is terrible right now, and so many just don't seem to get what damage the mediocrity of the JJ era has done to our profile as a program.

Same neighborhood does not equal literally the same. Both programs occupy roughly the same strata. Last season they would have been an even matchup, the main difference is that Davidson got hot in the A-10 tournament and got a bid. They're a good program that had a couple of legendary coaches and Steph Curry, but let's not get overboard deifying them either.

Fordham, Duquesne and George Mason are in the A10 too. Should ODU tremble in obedience in their presence?

And if ODU's profile is "terrible" then why would UVa not schedule them the same way they did JMU and Mason, both of which are also ******?

You are talking performance. I am talking perception. Our perception is miles from Davidson's.

Fair point (not sure about miles but I'll say it's better right now, yes).

But with that said, I would think that coaches — certainly good ones like Bennett — schedule with performance, not perception, in mind. Perception is more for the average fans; the coaches, ADs and selection-committee members are a lot more likely to be informed by raw data and what they see themselves.

Had U.Va. played ODU last season, it would have been a quadrant 1/2 game in Norfolk, a 2 on a neutral site and a 2/3 in Charlottesville. Not headline-grabbing stuff but certainly not a bad matchup.