(01-28-2018 09:25 AM)ken d Wrote:  

(01-27-2018 12:07 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(01-26-2018 04:09 PM)Stugray2 Wrote:  Bish,

HR is pliant almost everywhere. Name a company where HR had real power? HR people are a dime a dozen, the first ones laid off when times get hard. Many companies almost completely outsource HR (common in Silicon Valley for companies under 200 employees). They are in a position of being forced to suck up to upper management more than anyone, because they produce nothing for the bottom line. (Yet they are necessary.) I don't have a remedy, just an observation.

As for your question of shareholders, that would be State tax payers at public schools, and their reps would be the trustees/regents -- these have their own issues.

The State has a power shareholders don't: they can appoint an independent ombudsman office for Universities and take the disciplinary department out from under the President and place it under a different government office, such as the Governors, or a better a special task force of legislature (like the ethics committee) and Governor.

Private schools are all different, and I wont even speculate on how to deal with them, as I am not a believer in one size fits all policies.

A lot of people just don't understand this. Maybe not EVERYWHERE, but most places. People tend to go along, not question authority. Penn St. could have happened at a lot of schools, despite all the self-righteous proclamations. Montana, Baylor, Michigan St., North Carolina (on the academic, not criminal side) and others have demonstrated that.

Would we be more surprised if another school were similarly exposed, or more surprised if this were the last? That's an easy answer for me. Do we think that at places like Ohio State, Oklahoma, Florida State and others there isn't a culture that protects its misbehaving athletes at all costs? And throughout our culture (and to be fair in most of the world) star athletes have been led to believe that they can have whatever they want, sexually.

That's the same thought process I had.

Not to take anything away from the charges against MSU and aside from the Nassar stuff, but I can't help but think that if one were to do a deep dive on almost any major college athletic department (especially football & basketball) you'd probably come up with very similar results.

College sports is $$$ and it wouldn't be beyond the realm of possibility to think that staff members might try and down play or even cover up allegations as to not kill the golden goose.