(12-05-2017 12:41 PM)Jjoey52 Wrote:  

(12-04-2017 11:50 PM)leofrog Wrote:  

(12-04-2017 11:32 PM)Jjoey52 Wrote:  Don’t understand the fascination with CSU, they are very mediocre in the MW, they did get basketball last year for the first time in forever.


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If the Big 12 didn’t have West Virginia, I think going west would be best. A combo of New Mexico/CSU/BYU would be good. Not the best, but would be stable.

Agree with the premise of going west, but you picked 2 schools that traditionally suck in football especially UNM. SDSU, BYU and Boise would bring much more to the table. Add Fresno as a 4th so they all would have travel partners. IMHO the Big 12 is adding no one until someone leaves though.


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You evaluate schools on what they bring if 2-10 not if 10-2. Remember Presidents are the ones who vote, and things like academic standing and prestige matter more than W-L on the football field. The thinking goes, sports ups and downs come and go, but you are stuck associated with the institution for 100 years. Ask yourself do you want your brand associated with Memphis?

Colorado State is part of the west, growing almost twice as rapidly as the south, and already more populous than several southern states (will pass Tennessee, Kentucky, Missouri, and Louisiana over the next 15-20 years, as well as Indiana and Minnesota). In terms of research dollars there are 3 G5 under consideration who are above KU and ISU: USF, Cincy, and Colorado State. UConn is not far off, behind KU and ISU but ahead of OU.

These are important considerations. Add schools like Rice and Tulane with top admissions, and even BYU and you have almost the entire finalist list. UCF and Houston are much lower but still in the consideration band, as they are at least ahead of oSu.

Admission standards and research level were definitely a "cut factor"

Research:
A = USF, Cincy, CSU, UConn, Rice, Tulane
B = UCF, Houston (not quite making the cut were Temple and New Mexico who are ahead of UCF and Houston)
Admission Standards:
A = Rice, Tulane
B = BYU, UConn (SMU would go here, but cut for overlapping TCU in DFW metro)
the rest get a "C" on admission standards (Memphis and ECU would get "D" ratings)

Everyone else was cut. The next thing you look at is athletics, and more about the funding and ability to grow. Who is hot now is often a factor of coaches, and the good ones get hired away (e.g., Herman, Frost), so you do not rank that as high. The only "Brand" in the bunch is BYU - but they have issues off the field (Baylor situation didn't help them). You could argue UConn Basketball is a brand, but it's football.

That is the list, and that is where it sits. Those are the factor which weigh most heavily on Presidents when they make 100 year decisions. It's a different list than fans have.