(11-09-2017 10:43 AM)tcufrog86 Wrote:  

(11-09-2017 10:23 AM)BadgerMJ Wrote:  

(11-09-2017 09:07 AM)stever20 Wrote:  

(11-09-2017 07:22 AM)BadgerMJ Wrote:  

(11-08-2017 03:33 PM)Frog in the Kitchen Sink Wrote:  Ranking at the time of the game doesn't matter- because they completely reset each week, it is how opponents are regarded in the final rankings that matter. NW, Iowa and Michigan are all projected to be 8-4. Historically about half of 8-4 teams get ranked. NW with no strong wins probably wouldn't be, while Iowa would have a good shot with wins over Penn State and Iowa State.

Which is one of my questions about the committee. Do they consider that a win over a team ranked 23 is basically the same quality of win as a win over a team ranked 27? Or are they blind to any team 26 and down?.

You're right, the rankings today really don't mean anything. We can project what they might look like and go from there. That's the exact reason I said that you play the schedule you're given and win the games you're supposed to win and go from there.

I'd ask the committee if they take into consideration the SOS BEFORE the season as well as SOS after. For example, Wisconsin had BYU this year. BYU has been a 8-9 win team every year for the last decade or so. Is it fair to punish them for scheduling a team that has a history of being good because they happen to play them in a down year? That's the main problem I have with SOS. When a school schedules, they can only base it in historical data. I'm sure the schools that had games scheduled against Michigan State and ND last year thought they would be playing a top 25 team. Both had bad years so, IMO, it isn't really fair to hold it against them.

Unfortunately, until there's metrics that can be measured and quantified, it will all come down to someone's opinion.

what else are you supposed to go off of? Why should you get credit for BYU being a bad team? I mean who should get more credit-
Wisconsin playing a BYU team last 5 years that was 42-23
Notre Dame playing a Miami team last 5 years that was 39-25

Of course Notre Dame should get more credit, because Miami is good in the period that you know, actually matters, this year.

The only thing where I'd say Wisconsin should get credit for BYU's recent history would be if they're compared to Washington with Rutgers as their best OOC.

Of course ND should get more credit because Miami is good this year, but considering that most of these schedules are made several years in advance, it isn't fair to punish teams for SOS based on the current year. If you want to add "points" for current competition, that's fine, but if you scheduled a team with a history of winning and happen to play them in an off year, that's an unforeseen circumstance. I'd hope the committee would take that into consideration.

I agree that the BYU game shouldn't be punished by the committee because it was scheduled years ago and BYU is typically above average to very good. It was also a true road game, something that some teams don't play in OOC (for example if I am looking right, Bama hasn't played a OOC road game since 2011).

Wisconsin got a bad draw this year with BYU being down and a bad cross over bunch of games in the Big 10.