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(09-15-2018 10:51 AM)Old Dominion Wrote:  

(09-15-2018 10:17 AM)Purplehazed Wrote:  

(09-15-2018 09:33 AM)odugrad10 Wrote:  "I think progress is great. Is ODU progressing?"

That's my issue. We've stopped progressing. I could handle down years and growing pains if I thought we were building towards something. But we're not. At all.

I am not, was not saying anything about ODU. I come to your board because ODU has fans and there is board activity and I need brain stimulation while drinking my caffeine maxed out espresso on sat morn.

This is not a JMU vs ODU thing... Does BW have the resources? Firing BW to bring in another average G5 coach that would be offered the same expectations, win without the needed resources could set ODU back years.

Mike Houston has told JMU that he is all in for a 1A move IF JMU does it right. Right in this case means adequate resources. A ****** program like Coastal Carolina jive talking a ****** conference like the scumbelt into a ****** athletic marriage so Coastal can claim they are fbs is laughable. Lowly fcs JMU's second string could ***** whip Coastal Carolina and half the teams in the 1A scumbelt conference. G5 programs/conferences need to be sure they keep both feet on the ground when self evaluating.

The current G5 landscape hangs onto the fbs label for dear life...it's a label that has been watered down by fcs move ups that were not good fcs programs in the first place. You can think of at least 5 now I bet...

Many current G5 programs would not be top 10 fcs programs and would not make it to the NC is Frisco, TX.

The G5 conferences need to be blown up to survive. Which one cries uncle first?

This is where it gets tricky. It's very difficult to say with any certainty if BW is even an average FBS coach. Given the exact same resources ( or lack there of), would an average coach have more success? Impossible to say. Would more money allow BW to go out and hire better assistants and would that translate into more wins or would Wilders coaching style negate better assistant talent?
No argument we need better facilities. Selig knows that. His dilemma is how to raise and spend major $$ fast enough to catch up with others while still paying a coaching staff enough to be able to hire real FBS coaching talent.
What comes first? Better coaching staff at a higher price tag or spending for better facilities.

What you say above is 1 of 1,000 ways to describe JMU's "cautious approach" to conference realignment. I was all for a move to 1A and I relentlessly attached the JMU admin for years and many JMU posters hate me for it.

If, If, If JMU saw the unhinging of the G5 conferences due to declining TV revenue on top of programs known to be all over the map I can now see that JMU made the right decisions. This is not implying ODU made a bad decision, the schools were not in the same decision making space years ago.


G5 ADs trying to build stadiums and hire coaches while fans bellyache about not caring for conference mates from Texas and New Mexico. I can't help but laugh about New Mexico, really, ####### New Mexico? LU plays New Mexico twice in one season! Even LU's "us against the world" mentality will tired of New Mexico.

Stop the madness. We need to blow up CUSA and the Slumbelt and reorganize conferences so fans can be fans before all the half built stadiums are empty due to program apathy a program self-hate.

In the meantime, JMU is on a little island with NDSU and few others watching