(10-12-2017 08:04 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  From a purely political perspective I like your argument GTS. Where did you pick up that tact? First I ever heard that line of reasoning. I’m not jumping down that rabbit hole but I can appreciate the effort. Where does it stop? What’s the difference poor kid in a Los Angeles bario and a Tijuana one? That’s good. It really is.


Here’s my answer.
LI say we all pay a sales tax like they do in Canada. We do a hybrid system. A private public scenario.

Behind nearly every libertarian argument is a sober rational realistic understanding of economics in the real world. It's just straight up fantasy to think we can provide healthcare to everybody everywhere. Not gonna happen. The world isn't even CLOSE to being that prosperous or even that civilized. A libertarian may be carrying Ayn Rand and Frederic Bastiat books in the left hand ... but the right hand has books from F.A. Hayek, Milton Friedman, Adam Smith, and Ludwig von Mises.

And your answer still does nothing to abrogate my original point: The Canadian system is still too wildly expensive and wasteful to even pay for ITSELF in the long term much less be viable among the rest of the world which is on average quite a lot less prosperous than Canada. And Canada has the benefit of piggybacking off the innovations made in the much more lucrative US market. You need to jump down that rabbit hole. Because doing so will reveal and hopefully remove your hypocrisy on this issue. You can't go around saying we need more fairness and more spreading of wealth when you yourself ARE the 1% when viewed in a more complete (global) perspective. If we take the globe as a whole -- you ARE the monopoly man. Even if you're below the poverty line in the United States you're STILL in the 1%. Congrats Mach, you're filthy ****ing rich compared to the rest of the world. How does it feel to know your wealth is woefully insufficient to solve the world's problems? How does it feel to know that everybody else in the world looks at you as a rich entitled ungrateful ass unwilling to share your spoils with the rest of the planet no matter how hard you work for what you are able to scrape together? How does it feel to know that even if you handed over every penny to your name most of the planet would be ungrateful and simply ask for more?

Simply putting on blinders and pointing at the rich HERE doesn't fix anything here or in Africa. You can take all the wealth in this entire country and you still won't even cover health care costs for the African continent. What about those "spare" 2 to 3 billion Indians and Chinese leftover? Come on Mach you're standing at the edge of improving yourself mentally and politically. Man the **** up and swallow the red pill.