(09-27-2017 04:17 PM)RutgersGuy Wrote:  

(09-27-2017 02:03 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(09-27-2017 11:27 AM)RutgersGuy Wrote:  

(09-26-2017 07:33 PM)JRsec Wrote:  The FBI is just tugging on the first few inches of a 5 mile long ball of yarn. The question is do they unroll and investigate all 5 miles or grab some headlines with the first few inches? Who they don't investigate will likely show us the motives for the investigative process. If they investigate the whole 5 miles they will have earned my applause. If they stop with just a few this was a hatchet job on behalf of another party or parties.

You think the FBI cares if it's Louisville or Kentucky? That the FBI is doing a hatchet job on behalf of another school/conference? Uh okay...

You are so obtuse sometimes. The FBI had to get a tip to start an investigation. That tip could have come from another shoe company, a school, or a conference. Heck it could have come from a kid or a parent. Immunity is frequently given for a tip. If the scope is limited it "may" indicate a source. It's not the FBI that would have an agenda, it's the one who gave the tip to start the investigation that likely has an agenda.

It is possible too that a tip could have come from another government agency, like the Treasury Department. It is also possible that the FBI was investigating an entirely different matter and stumbled across this one.

We'll see.

I'm obtuse? This is how things usually work, they don't just get a random "tip" from someone. They usually catch someone doing something illegal. Then they squeeze that person for more info on something or someone bigger than the fish they already have caught.

You think the FBI is going to start a full on investigation into Louisville because UK called them, and told them they were paying players? The FBI doesn't care about paying players. The FBI got involved because a shoe company was bribing employees of a federally funded institution.

The most likely (much more likely than your scenario) is that they caught a small fish for something and got them to flip for them and then used that info/evidence to reel in the bigger fish.

The FBI isn't running around trying to catch NCAA infractions. They aren't there to do the dirty work for rival schools and conferences. Thats a naive idea that spawns on message boards.

I think I covered that. I investigated infractions, but not for the NCAA, for well over a decade while I was also doing other work in a related field. And yes, tips come from all kinds of sources, and most have some basis of truth in them and as you learn the sources you can triage those pretty fast. Whether that will eventually involve an agency like the FBI depends on the nature of the allegations.

That's why the FBI said this morning that they were not looking at going after schools, but rather individuals. The NCAA will go after the schools.

As it turns out this investigation came out of another. It could just as easily have come from a tip.

But, the only thing that matters here is that the FBI can glean far more information than the NCAA. This is only going to balloon. And while the recruitment of football players differs substantially from that of basketball players they both sell apparel. So this is just getting started. They subpoenaed Nike this afternoon and probably will be doing the same with Under Armour.