(09-06-2017 01:57 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(09-06-2017 01:39 PM)Lizard Breath Wrote:  

(09-05-2017 08:49 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(09-05-2017 08:04 PM)Lizard Breath Wrote:  Are some of you guys just going to have to deal with low attendance? Like WKU? You guys have been doing very good but your attendance is a black eye. We need our top teams getting top attendance numbers.

Lets see every game is shown on TV...LOCALLY. No dollar or five dollar night. Small population. Poor state. Two national championship and top all time programs (#1 & #6 ) with in 2.5 hours and both state schools.

The only one fighting that last part is UNCC and UAB. neither are figing the other problems of Small population base or every game being shown on live TV

So with that Western is sitting at 83% of butts in seats...17% of a full stadium. Would it look better and be better to fill those other 3900 seats? Sure it would.

But lets see which is more valuable to the conference....

17% of your seats sitting empty and winning 23 games over the last 2 seasons

Or having 4 to 5,000 more fans in the stands in a stadium that is half full and winning 7 or below games each of the last 2 years?

Seats sitting unused mostly only hurt that team. A team losing affects us all...

now out of these two has the larger negative affect on a conference...

1. 17% of your seats going unused and winning

2. 50% of your seats sitting empty even you are averaging 24k in attendance and losing

Lets be honest which do you think the average fan sitting at home watching a game is going to notice as a negative.....

only 18,600 fans in a 22k seat stadium winning
24,000 fans sitting in a half empty stadium losing

Lets just drop the winning or losing .....the average fan does not know or care the total number of butts sitting in those seats. The average fan will see a mostly full to a mostly empty stadium and take notice.

You're going to have bad years too. Like 2009-2011 when you went 2-22. It just looks weird. Seeing that you've had two very good years, 23-5 the last 2 & are only able to get 16-18k at a game. Some of the pictures I've seen look a lot worse for some reason. Regardless the goal is to win & you're doing that. I didn't mean to pick you guys out, I just noticed that your attendance hasn't moved much due to the very good seasons. Can't complain about winning games that's for sure.

I understand what you are saying. I don't even disagree with you, there should be a few thousand more sitting in the stands.

But fans in football states do not understand a basketball state and a poor one at that. Unless you live here you really don't get that uk not being good in fb has no bearing on Western winning over those fans. A lot of people get some kind of selfworth from saying they are a uk fan and they live and die with that. Western doesn't have 300,000 k or 1,000,000 or 2.4 million or any of those large numbers to draw from.

Bowling Green has grown in the last 10 years but it's outside growth and those fans have no connection to the school or team. I would guess 1/4 of the growth over those years were people from other countries.

In Texas if a local team won back to back state championships without losing over those 2 years. The whole city and county gets behind them. BGHS did just that and where at the top (5) of the state polls for most of the last 7 or so years. The stands are not even close to being full.

There are a lot of limitations in a non football state. Especially a poor state with the SEC, Big 10 and ACC (about 7 different teams) with in a few hours drive. Add to that a lower population to draw from. Today I honestly don't know the total of people living with in 30 miles of BG. But I would think 18,600 would be 15% or so. Which is probably a larger % than those who have 100s of thousands or millions to draw from.

We all seem to have problems filling our stadiums. While 24 or 28k is a lot better than 18k....

it's not really if you have 4x the amount to draw from and still a half empty stadium. Yes I would love for Western to get 24k a game (stadium holds 23, 000 or so but will fit 24k. But in the end that is still peanuts to what those schools should be drawing.

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