OK, so you're just talking about the DCEU, right? (i.e. Dark Knight Trilogy and other earlier DC character stuff not included). As you note, DC has put a successful (i.e. critical and popular) DCEU movie out: Wonder Woman. Terrific film. But I think the point you're getting at, and make more clearly in the movie thread, is that DC hasn't done a very good job of thinking through their character's movie (and TV) lives, how they can connect, and where they're headed. Marvel has done this remarkably well. Their TV productions link to their movie productions. Characters are consistent. But DC doesn't appear to care much about that. Your example of Arrow is a good one: They just arbitrarily decided that Arrow would go up against Ra's al ghul? It actually did make the show good, but it completely crapped all over the Batman story line. Do you watch Gotham? As silly as it can be sometimes I kind of like it, but it's obviously part of some separate DC universe because the Ra's-Bruce Wayne story line has become integral. All the TV Flash stuff? Those characters (and the actors who portray them)? Completely different from the film - ANOTHER DC universe. It's disjointed, and means the best they can do (for now) is the occasional hit like WW, but then they have disastrous opening weekends for what should be a MONSTER hit in Justice League, because fans don't trust them to get this stuff right and they're not telling a story like Marvel is. And for the record, I'm not a Marvel fanboy - I've always preferred the DC characters.