Kinder et al - for sure men in drag have used women's bathrooms before. The one time I know of that it happened was at a party I was at, the ladies came to the director and asked that he be thrown out. His outfit and make up were really quite good. maybe it was his 6'4" height that gave rise to some extra scrutiny. Might have been a bit wobbly on his high heels.

On the other hand, I have been in men's rooms when women, in regular women's dress, have come in for one reason or another. I must admit, I was never in fear of being raped or molested.

I may have posted this this here before, but I just came from the World Series of Poker, an event that draws a self-selected crowd that is 95% male. So when the competition breaks came up, the men's rooms were overwhelmed. The last couple of years, they handled this problem by (temporarily) reassigning most of the women's rooms as all-gender restrooms. In five days there, I saw only three women opt to use the AG restroom - and one of them made her husband stand guard.

I can foresee a future day when the building codes will not have separate restrooms, just all-gender, all-stall restrooms. Fine with me. One restroom for everybody, regardless of race, religion, sex, or sexual orientation. I certainly expect the women to complain about seats being left up, pee on the floor, and/or pee on the seats, but progress has its price. For me, I am fine with it. I routinely used the AG rooms in Vegas. No problem.

What I don't understand is how things will be done with separate men's and women's rooms under this hero (or is it antihero) policy. Will we still have separate rooms except for transgenders? how will we know they are transgender, especially if they are in early stages?

Or will it be that anybody can use any restroom, any time? If so, I can see why Lance, as the father of daughters, could be concerned. I don't know the mechanisms of the law that Lance opposed.

I guess, from what you are saying, that religious schools like BYU and Liberty would be justified in requiring religious affirmation of the school's policies before hiring a coach. what if BYU hired a Methodist, or a Jew, or a Muslim, and then he was asked about Joseph Smith? Would he have to give the school's position to keep his job?

yeah, with broad boundaries, we want our nontenured employees to not wage war on our principles. But somewhere within the broad part of the bell curve, it must be OK for employees to be a little left or a little right of center. They shouldn't have to be dead on, with every issue. We are not Stepford U.

anybody, feel free to PM the details of the HERO/anitHERO stuff, as I seem to be the only one who doesn't know the difference.

I didn't think at first that Lance would be a viable option, but from some of the arguments here, i would feel better about it if that came about. I don't think his position in the bathroom wars should either qualify or disqualify him. JMHO.