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RE: What non-power schools...?
(08-04-2017 08:53 AM)DawgNBama Wrote:  
(07-09-2017 05:11 PM)templefootballfan Wrote:  the only schools that help SEC & B-10 are Va & NC
unless B-10 thinks Conn would help cultavate NYC along with Kansas

ACC would need a power FB program to keep FB schools from balking
you would play ND less & have to worry about FB schools jumping to B-12

Pac-12 ony hope for state of Tex is Hous, along with Haw
15 & 16: how about NM & u of British Columbia

B-12 has to double thier market size & turn LHN into quasi conf network
BYU, Conn, UCF, USF, Cin, Memphis, Temple, Buffalo for 18

IMO, neither UVa nor UNC really help the SEC that much unless you are looking at UNC basketball. And both of them are waaay too much in academic arrogance to consider joining the SEC, unfortunately. NC State is just as big into academic arrogance as UNC and UVa are, IMO. It's going to take NC State getting a chancellor like R. Bowen Loftin (former TAMU chancellor & current Mizzou chancellor) to see that it may be in NCSU's best interest to leave the ACC, IMO. That's also why I think Texas will never join the SEC: academic arrogance. That's why I look at ECU as being a little more realistic option.

As for the Big 12, they have to get a conference network. That is going to be imperative for them. I don't know why they foolishly went after a conference championship game when their real need was a conference network. But there's going to be very little interest in a Big 12 conference network sans the Longhorns, so, like it or hate it, the Big 12 is going to have to wheel & deal with Texas to put something together that would garner a tv partner's interest in getting a Big 12 network going, and I'm not quite sure what all that would entail. That's one thing Oklahoma's president has really been pushing for, and it's true that the Big 12 needs it, but he needs to sit down and talk with his peer at his rival institution (Texas) to see how to go about it, what concessions need to be made, etc. Once everything with the Longhorns is hashed out, then the Big 12 conference can go forward and really work on some long term stability. I don't think that coming to an agreement with Texas will be impossible, but I don't think it's going to be done anytime soon either because of the complexity of the issue.

NC State does not have it's own Board of Governors. Its Board of Trustees works under the UNC System BOG, which is a creature of the NC General Assembly. In short, NC State has the least unilateral discretionary power of any school in the P-5. UNC-Ch would have to okay with NC State moving anywhere and the decision would not be made by any Chancellor even if the Chancellor was Jesus Christ.

The faculty would not accept a move to the SEC because of the perceived need to turn a blind eye to football shenanigans. The B10 is a better "academic" match, but culturally NC State is southern, and a move to the B10 does not help NC State football because long term competitions with PSU, Ohio State, and Michigan means competing against football stadiums with capacities of 110K. NC State could add capacity to 72K-75K and fill it up, but that's still not close to what would be needed. It would take an estimated additional $50 million a year to compete on top of what additional B10 money they would receive.

It's just not happening.

Any trading of schools between the SEC and ACC has to be financed by ESPN. You can make cases regarding certain trades between the two conferences that might include NC State, Wake Forest, and perhaps VT, in conjunction with the dissolution of the B12, but no one is going to volunteer for that. NC State and WF for Auburn and Vandy is just about the only thing that makes any sense, but what do WF and Vandy really gain? Other than getting out of the direct shadow of Alabama and NC politics what do NC State and Auburn gain?
08-04-2017 03:25 PM
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