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RE: What non-power schools...?
(08-02-2017 01:25 AM)lance99 Wrote:  
(08-02-2017 12:55 AM)dunstvangeet Wrote:  
(07-12-2017 05:35 PM)Bronco14 Wrote:  I doubt the Power 5 will take anyone. If Boise St wasn't upgraded to the PAC 12, upgrading anyone else is dreaming.
Boise State has several problems with being upgraded into the PAC-12.

1. Academics - All PAC-12 schools are National Universities (USA Today) in academics. Boise State is not. Under the Carnegie System, All PAC-12 schools are Tier 1 ("Very High Research") Research Universities. Boise State is a Tier 3 ("Moderate Research Activities") under the Carnegie classification system.

2. Market Size - Every other team either has, or shares, a top 35 national market (#2 Los Angeles, #6 San Francisco, #12 Phoenix, #14 Seattle, #17 Denver, #25 Portland, #34 Salt Lake City) as the primary market in their state. Boise State has Boise, which is #106.

3. Divisional. The PAC-12 would never really expand, because their football divisions already take them away southern California as much as possible. In order to expand, the PAC-12 would need to really go into the PAC-16, with a population and recruiting center to counteract the population center of California. Ultimately, the PAC-12, if it would expand, would want to goto 16 teams, with an east-west split, therefore reuniting the old PAC-8 as one division. Boise State does not bring anything towards that goal.

PAC-12 would never really consider Boise State.

Academics would be the only reason. IMHO you have automatic no votes form the following: USC, UCLA, Stanford and the Arizona Schools(assuming they went to a East-west alignment). The snobs in that Conference would feel that they are lowering themselves to add them....
It would never get to a vote. USC, UCLA, Stanford, California, and Washington wouldn't do the academics. Oregon, Oregon State, Washington State, and Washington wouldn't do the alignment (without an east-west split) (they are not going to give up more games in Southern California for a game in Boise). And Larry Scott wouldn't even propose it because of the Media Market.

Like I said, it wouldn't ever get a vote.
08-03-2017 12:22 AM
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