(07-15-2017 03:02 PM)billyjack Wrote:  

(07-14-2017 04:04 PM)ken d Wrote:  

(07-14-2017 11:19 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(07-13-2017 08:21 AM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  There's no official tiers assigned to basketball program prestige. However, using it's past NCAA Championship, three NCAA Championship runner-ups, Final Fours, Elite Eights, NCAA Tournament appearances, conference tournament championships and conference regular season championships, it is clear that Georgetown is one of the top-20 basketball programs in the nation. Obviously, arguments and statistics can be made as to where it should be placed in that tier, but it cannot be denied that Georgetown's basketball brand is one of the top brands in the country. Utilizing the stretch in the 80's, as well as its association with Jordan Brand, it is clear and identifiable as an elite brand. Brand and program prestige can be viewed a bit differently, but that's where Georgetown is, IMO.

Some people - not you, btw - keep trying to answer questions like this with reams of statistics. But it can't be answered that way. E.g., in football, Notre Dame is still the biggest brand name even though they haven't won a single thing of consequence in almost a quarter-century.

On this issue, everyone who doesn't have an ax to grind knows that Georgetown is a pretty big basketball "brand name". Whether the won-loss or Final 4 or whatever statistical metric floats your boat says we deserve to be or not, the fact remains that we are.

No, we're not in the same category as the Big Six - Kentucky, UCLA, Duke, UNC, Kansas, and Indiana. Those are the the true blue-bloods. But we are in the next group of 10 or so programs after that, the semi- or quasi- blue bloods, or whatever you want to call them.

It's just the way it is, no matter how many haters gonna hate.

First, for the record, I wouldn't put Indiana in the blue blood class.

And, for me, there are two classes: blue bloods, and not blue bloods. I agree that Georgetown is in the second group. The fact remains that they are, relatively speaking, a johnny-come-lately in college basketball. And maybe they should be considered a johnny-came-lately, since their candle burned brightly, but briefly. They were irrelevant before the formation of the Big East, and are in some danger of relapsing, now that that conference is a shadow of its former self.

There are a lot of schools who have had great success over a short period of time. If you want to create some new class (quasi blue bloods) there are going to be an awful lot of members in it.

Lol, awesome... yeah, you've been totally respectful of Georgetown... johnny come lately... johnny came lately... candle burned briefly... irrelevant before BE... conference shadow of former self...

Shadow conference BE went 9-4 vs the ACC... Xavier 25 point dismantling of FSU... Johnnies 33 points over Syracuse at Carrier Dome... your cheatin Tarheels lost to dreg BE Villanova...

And Georgetown got smoked at home to the 3-5th place team in the Sun Belt. The Big East is really a good conference. But you guys are not helping them out.