(01-30-2016 10:29 PM)johnbragg Wrote:  

(01-30-2016 10:08 PM)NoDak Wrote:  

(01-30-2016 08:45 PM)johnbragg Wrote:  

(01-30-2016 07:53 PM)NoDak Wrote:  #

(01-30-2016 03:12 PM)johnbragg Wrote:  "Others", including the people who wrote the NCAA manual. Those dopes don't get it. NoDak knows the score.

The NCAA formerly had a rule where new DI teams could transition over five years and then over eight years become a core member and form a conference. The term "core member" was dropped and the transition was dropped to four years, but DII schools can only move up if they had a bid from an existing confernce. The eight year continuity rule remains in place, as shown by the new Big East getting an autobid. New conferences by definition can no longer form from DII members, so those rules became superfluous and we're dropped.

All the rules about a new conference forming from DII moveups went away, not the continuity requirements that went with them. There is still eight years continuity for seven members. The P5 wants that to protect themselves from an unforseen event, i.e. something worse than Paterno. The new Big East took advantage of it. As a Big East fan on this board it must be pretty shameful not to know that, so understand that your pride was wounded.

I been following the rules since I was a teen in the 70s. They've changeded massively from the days the Big South and Transamerica moved to DI from DII. The MWC, Great Midwest, American South, and CUSA didnot get autobids right off the bat.

Have you seen the NCAA manual since the SAve-the-WAC rule was passed?

The NCAA no longer requires continuity within an existing autobid conference. That's why the American kept it's autobid too. Not just a special rule for the WAC.

The NCAA still requires "continuity." They've just changed the meaning of continuity in the NCAA rules from "X schools for Y years" to "sponsor X sports continuously for 8 years."

The Big East pre-nup was written under the old rules, and were based on the assumption that the old rules would still be in play. That was surely a big factor in the Big East getting our autobid. But by the rules in the NCAA manual, we didn't qualify for it.

Any conference can lose all its members but one and backfill with others but still be retain its autobid conference. Which is what happened essentially to the WAC and American, only the AAC had a bigger core group.

Having seven members with eight years association in the old Big East gave the new Big East it's new autobid. No one in the NCAA voted on the existence of the new Big East.

If the new Big East had only six members from the old Big East, it would not have had an men's bball autobid today, but would have multiple sports getting autobids in all sports right away except men's bb.