(07-13-2016 09:28 AM)Bull Wrote:  

(07-13-2016 07:17 AM)johnbragg Wrote:  

(07-12-2016 10:31 PM)Bull Wrote:  Who gets to define what 'close' is, you?

No, I do, because I reek of awesomeness. "Close to campus" means within walking distance. Your typical FBS college has lots and lots of students living on campus (or in private housing just off campus) which means a lot of them aren't driving on a daily basis.

So if your pro stadium is not within drunken stumbling distance of your campus, no, it's not close.

Quote: Not walking distance, but most students have access to these wonderful inventions called 'cars'.

As RJS ages a bit, the OCS talk will ramp up.

Because your leadership understands that your situation is not ideal.

Quote: It's actually already started with the MOSI move freeing up a great space adjacent to the campus.[/close]
Cheers!

Adjacent! Usin' them big words at DRive-Thru U!

Seriously, I understand that different schools are different. My mother drove to St Johns from Brooklyn, 15 miles each way. St Johns finally built dorms partially because the athletic housing allowance was becoming an issue. But the FBS model, and one that USF is driving towards, is undergraduates living on (or very near) campus and an on-campus stadium, all in walkable distances.

Ah... A St. John fan is the latest expert about what USF 'needs'... How nice! ;-)

Not a USF expert, just know what "close" means in FBS stadium-speak.

(And I get that walkable-cobblestone-streets is not the only model.)

Quote:I get you are kidding around, so no offense taken. Seriously though, everyone with an axe to grind about USF beats the stadium situation to death.

Guess I don't have an axe to grind about USF stadium--from where I sit, your main problem is too few people in it.

But your own leadership, apparently, is moving ultimately in the walkable OCS direction.

Quote:The bottom line is this, it's a awesome stadium. It's posh. It's hosted super bowls. It has a HUGE capacity, that's relevant for attracting some of the bigger name schools. Multiple coaches have said it's a recruiting positive, not the opposite. We would MUCH rather play at RJ (yes even with red seats), than in some middling cheap OCS.

I have no problem with any of that. Far as I know, Rose Bowl isn't that close to USC or UCLA, right?

Quote:So anyone who does not like USF goes on ad-nauseam online about how it's just 'awful' how we don't have an OCS... Don't fret about us, we're doing just fine. when we were winning, we PACKED RayJay... so somehow, someway, the kids and everyone else are found their way to Dale Mabry... That alone blasts the point that RJ is some 'disadvantage' for us... which is absolutely laughable anyway. Because everyone just HATES all those great NFL amenities, right...? (lol)

I agree with you that an OCS is indeed, and should be, our long term goal. We will build one soon, and we'll build up something pretty awesome. But because we have RJ 'nearby', we have been patient. In the meantime, if you get drunk at RJ, I will personally get you an Uber.

FWIW, I hope someday I 'reek of awesomeness'. Not yet though...

PS Sorry to derail off topic. Go Umass!!!

I forgot this was a UMass thread.