(09-19-2013 01:52 PM)slycat Wrote:
(09-19-2013 01:31 PM)TXSTRiverBobcat Wrote:
(09-19-2013 01:02 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:
(09-19-2013 12:37 PM)Cajuncat Wrote:
(09-19-2013 09:23 AM)tx.state Wrote: Texas State was the 4th most applied to University in Texas, only behind Texas, Texas A&M, and University of Houston. For fall 2013, TXST had over 25,000 applications.
Where did you hear we were 4th?
I don't find that surprising. I think Texas State is 4th in enrollment behind those same 3 schools. With two large metro areas to recruit students, athletes, and alumni from---Texas State has the potential to become a significant power in the state.
We're actually still 5th in the state. We are just 653 students behind The University of North Texas. We should pass them in either the spring or in the fall of 2014. We're still about 5,000 behind Houston though. I'd like to see us get to about 45,000.
Fourth in applications not enrollment
based on the 2012 application numbers which can be found here
under admissions for the various universities Texas State would have to had about an 80% increase in applications to move into 4th
and while I will be the first to admit that website (being government) has false information and I can point to one instance of that right away it is more than likely a case of a keying mistake (or in this particular case a university that is known to present false information doing so)
either way 2012 applications listed on there are
Texas Tech 18,027
north Texas state 17,140
Texas State 10,418
and just to be 100% clear number of applicants is really a meaningless number overall and to be even more clear the acceptance % of a university is a meaningless number as well since in the case of all these schools except UT and A&M when there is a guaranteed admissions system in place the only thing a lower acceptance % means is that you had a larger pool of unqualified applicants
acceptance % is one of the most abused and falsely used numbers in higher education because the number of applicants and the qualification of those applicants is 100% outside the control of the university period
and for the vast majority of state schools with guaranteed admissions policies in place they have to accept all that are qualified that apply and again there is no control by the university how many apply or how qualified they are
100% meaningless number period
what I would say does somewhat pertain to what is being discussed here is the number that were accepted that went ahead and decided to attend.....I believe the inference was that Texas State is becoming very popular and thus had a large number of applicants
I will agree 100% that Texas State is becoming very popular and I think what really shows that is the % of students that were accepted that enrolled
here is the % admitted that enrolled from the above list
Texas Tech 39%
north Texas state 43%
Texas State 62%
so a very large % of students that applied to Texas State saw Texas State as an option they wanted to go with of they were accepted
and some might say that is because they had to end up and go there because there other choices were not available to them because they did not meet the admissions criteria (and that could be a discussion), but the reality is in Texas UTA, Texas State, UTSA, UH and north Texas state all have very similar admissions requirements and only UT, Texas A&M, UTD and Texas Tech have markedly higher GUARANTEED admissions requirements
of the ones listed UH now has the clear 5th highest requirements behind UT, Texas A&M, UTD and Texas Tech and after that the differences between Texas State, north Texas state and UTA are not really of consequence and with UTSA they have raised theirs, but they still have a firm level where a guaranteed review is in place at various class rankings
so the point is students that decided upon Texas State had a multitude of other state schools to choose from (about 30) if they were admitted to Texas State and still a very large % of them did in fact choose Texas State
so while I am not sure the increase in applications for 2013 would have been enough for Texas State to be 4th in number of applicants (or a decrease in the others) I still believe the point is valid that Texas State is a very popular option for a state school in Texas