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RE: New enrollment numbers for 2013
(09-19-2013 01:02 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
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(09-19-2013 09:23 AM)tx.state Wrote:  Texas State was the 4th most applied to University in Texas, only behind Texas, Texas A&M, and University of Houston. For fall 2013, TXST had over 25,000 applications.

Where did you hear we were 4th?

I don't find that surprising. I think Texas State is 4th in enrollment behind those same 3 schools. With two large metro areas to recruit students, athletes, and alumni from---Texas State has the potential to become a significant power in the state.

Well the reason I ask is because at the Bobcat Club Houston Luncheon I thought I heard Teis say we were #3 in college applications received. His numbers he threw out there were 27,000+ applications received for Fall 2013 Semester and that they would probably accept 7,000 of those with an expectation that 6,000 would actually make it to campus. Just trying to figure out what is legit.
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Troy's main campus is around 7 or 8K. This information is almost never published and is incredibly tough to get ahold of. I saw an article in The Trop once in 2008 saying ~7,100. I imagine we're pushing 8K if not more.

Two things that have hurt Troy as far as donors is a small student population and no law or medical schools. A few years ago we started our first doctoral school (Nursing). But that's the only one I know of.
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So is Troy like Liberty where they churn out a lot of online degrees to boost their numbers?
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RE: New enrollment numbers for 2013
(09-19-2013 01:52 PM)slycat Wrote:  
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(09-19-2013 12:37 PM)Cajuncat Wrote:  
(09-19-2013 09:23 AM)tx.state Wrote:  Texas State was the 4th most applied to University in Texas, only behind Texas, Texas A&M, and University of Houston. For fall 2013, TXST had over 25,000 applications.

Where did you hear we were 4th?

I don't find that surprising. I think Texas State is 4th in enrollment behind those same 3 schools. With two large metro areas to recruit students, athletes, and alumni from---Texas State has the potential to become a significant power in the state.

We're actually still 5th in the state. We are just 653 students behind The University of North Texas. We should pass them in either the spring or in the fall of 2014. We're still about 5,000 behind Houston though. I'd like to see us get to about 45,000.

Fourth in applications not enrollment

based on the 2012 application numbers which can be found here

http://nces.ed.gov/collegenavigator/?s=T...&ct=1&ic=1

under admissions for the various universities Texas State would have to had about an 80% increase in applications to move into 4th

and while I will be the first to admit that website (being government) has false information and I can point to one instance of that right away it is more than likely a case of a keying mistake (or in this particular case a university that is known to present false information doing so)

either way 2012 applications listed on there are

UT 35,431

A&M 27,730

Texas Tech 18,027

north Texas state 17,140

UH 17,019

UTSA 14,650

Texas State 10,418


and just to be 100% clear number of applicants is really a meaningless number overall and to be even more clear the acceptance % of a university is a meaningless number as well since in the case of all these schools except UT and A&M when there is a guaranteed admissions system in place the only thing a lower acceptance % means is that you had a larger pool of unqualified applicants

acceptance % is one of the most abused and falsely used numbers in higher education because the number of applicants and the qualification of those applicants is 100% outside the control of the university period

and for the vast majority of state schools with guaranteed admissions policies in place they have to accept all that are qualified that apply and again there is no control by the university how many apply or how qualified they are

100% meaningless number period

what I would say does somewhat pertain to what is being discussed here is the number that were accepted that went ahead and decided to attend.....I believe the inference was that Texas State is becoming very popular and thus had a large number of applicants

I will agree 100% that Texas State is becoming very popular and I think what really shows that is the % of students that were accepted that enrolled

here is the % admitted that enrolled from the above list

UT 49%

A&M 44%

Texas Tech 39%

north Texas state 43%

UH 37%

UTSA 43%

Texas State 62%

so a very large % of students that applied to Texas State saw Texas State as an option they wanted to go with of they were accepted

and some might say that is because they had to end up and go there because there other choices were not available to them because they did not meet the admissions criteria (and that could be a discussion), but the reality is in Texas UTA, Texas State, UTSA, UH and north Texas state all have very similar admissions requirements and only UT, Texas A&M, UTD and Texas Tech have markedly higher GUARANTEED admissions requirements

of the ones listed UH now has the clear 5th highest requirements behind UT, Texas A&M, UTD and Texas Tech and after that the differences between Texas State, north Texas state and UTA are not really of consequence and with UTSA they have raised theirs, but they still have a firm level where a guaranteed review is in place at various class rankings

so the point is students that decided upon Texas State had a multitude of other state schools to choose from (about 30) if they were admitted to Texas State and still a very large % of them did in fact choose Texas State

so while I am not sure the increase in applications for 2013 would have been enough for Texas State to be 4th in number of applicants (or a decrease in the others) I still believe the point is valid that Texas State is a very popular option for a state school in Texas
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(09-19-2013 06:54 AM)LouisianaHawkFan Wrote:  
(09-19-2013 05:33 AM)Louisianafanrcajun90 Wrote:  
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(09-18-2013 06:56 PM)Louisianafanrcajun90 Wrote:  The enrollment at UL has jumped from 16,500 to 18,000. This is even with higher acceptance standards. I know that is small potatoes to some of your schools but when you compare it to other Louisiana colleges we are second only to LSU. LA Tech has close to 12,00o while ULM is around 7,000 I believe.
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Here are the actual numbers for normal enrollment reporting in Louisiana. JUCO and Tech have not released Fall 2013 yet.

Enrollment

JUCO: 8,560 (2012 Fall)
Tech: 11,360 (2012 Fall)
UL: 16,687 (2012 Fall) / 16,647 (2013 Fall)

That's only undergraduates for UL. We picked up around 1,000 grad students. Those numbers are from last year. Those Tech numbers are also inflated. Also, SLCC (The Community College in Lafayette) has 3,600 students. Those students are heading for UL next year if they make the grade so expect another bump for 2014.

Wrong, the numbers above are all from official school releases. The 18K number has no relationship to the 16K number you posted. You are down 40 students. No big deal, just posting facts.

This is from the UL release:

The University’s regular enrollment remains stable, with 16,647 for the Fall 2013 semester. Last year, the enrollment was 16,687, a difference of 40 students.

Stupid LouisianaJUCOFan. This is for undergrad only. What part of that did you not get??
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(09-19-2013 03:00 PM)slycat Wrote:  So is Troy like Liberty where they churn out a lot of online degrees to boost their numbers?

We have 60+ campuses world wide. New Orleans, Vietnam, etc. We have Troy's in Dothan, Montgomery and Phenix City that I can verify are on-campus institutions that also offer online. I would say there is as much online going on at Troy as most other places, less than people think and more actually in class learning.
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(09-19-2013 03:25 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  
(09-19-2013 03:00 PM)slycat Wrote:  So is Troy like Liberty where they churn out a lot of online degrees to boost their numbers?

We have 60+ campuses world wide. New Orleans, Vietnam, etc. We have Troy's in Dothan, Montgomery and Phenix City that I can verify are on-campus institutions that also offer online. I would say there is as much online going on at Troy as most other places, less than people think and more actually in class learning.

Ah ok. Y'all have an interesting setup.
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(09-19-2013 03:33 PM)slycat Wrote:  
(09-19-2013 03:25 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  
(09-19-2013 03:00 PM)slycat Wrote:  So is Troy like Liberty where they churn out a lot of online degrees to boost their numbers?

We have 60+ campuses world wide. New Orleans, Vietnam, etc. We have Troy's in Dothan, Montgomery and Phenix City that I can verify are on-campus institutions that also offer online. I would say there is as much online going on at Troy as most other places, less than people think and more actually in class learning.

Ah ok. Y'all have an interesting setup.

The number 60 from an article I remember reading a long time ago. I may have read it wrong as Troy's website doesn't list that many. I remember there being a Troy (and a Burger King) in Baghdad for some reason.

UPDATE: Found this in Troy's website: " no matter where life takes you, you’ll never be far from one of the more than 60 TROY teaching sites across the U.S. and around the world."
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(09-19-2013 01:50 PM)The Black Flag Wrote:  Just going off whats been posted in the thread, with a few Google searches to fill in the rest.

Texas State - 35,000
UTA - 33,300
Georgia State - 32,374
Troy - 29,000
stAte - 21,976
Georgia Southern - 20,574
NMSU - 18,497
UL - 18,235
App State - 17,589
USA - 15,311
Idaho - 12,312
ULM: 8,560


Did I miss anyone?

I believe stAte is more like 14,000 tops.
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(09-19-2013 03:13 PM)Lafitte the Pirate Wrote:  
(09-19-2013 06:54 AM)LouisianaHawkFan Wrote:  
(09-19-2013 05:33 AM)Louisianafanrcajun90 Wrote:  
(09-18-2013 11:45 PM)LouisianaHawkFan Wrote:  
(09-18-2013 06:56 PM)Louisianafanrcajun90 Wrote:  The enrollment at UL has jumped from 16,500 to 18,000. This is even with higher acceptance standards. I know that is small potatoes to some of your schools but when you compare it to other Louisiana colleges we are second only to LSU. LA Tech has close to 12,00o while ULM is around 7,000 I believe.
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Here are the actual numbers for normal enrollment reporting in Louisiana. JUCO and Tech have not released Fall 2013 yet.

Enrollment

JUCO: 8,560 (2012 Fall)
Tech: 11,360 (2012 Fall)
UL: 16,687 (2012 Fall) / 16,647 (2013 Fall)

That's only undergraduates for UL. We picked up around 1,000 grad students. Those numbers are from last year. Those Tech numbers are also inflated. Also, SLCC (The Community College in Lafayette) has 3,600 students. Those students are heading for UL next year if they make the grade so expect another bump for 2014.

Wrong, the numbers above are all from official school releases. The 18K number has no relationship to the 16K number you posted. You are down 40 students. No big deal, just posting facts.

This is from the UL release:

The University’s regular enrollment remains stable, with 16,647 for the Fall 2013 semester. Last year, the enrollment was 16,687, a difference of 40 students.

Stupid LouisianaJUCOFan. This is for undergrad only. What part of that did you not get??

It's already been pointed out previously that 16,647 is for undergrads and graduates. The additional numbers are for continuing education. So, really no change from last year.
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