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RE: If the SEC did expand again and did so from the Big 12 who should we take and why?
(09-13-2013 08:28 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(09-13-2013 07:44 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  The new Orangebloods rumor about Deloss Dodds retiring before the end of the year is very intriguing. Of course Dodds is denying it but he would have to do that if it was true or false so his denial means nothing. What Dodds DID say is the names of Swarbrick and Bowlsby IF he was to do so. I think it is safe to say we can pencil in Bowlsby as the future Texas AD. Besides, he is going to need a new job and Texas has the most to lose should Bowlsby veer from the party line. He also has a very good history of picking successful college football coaches when he was at Stanford. Texas needs that with their next AD as it seems Dodds wants the next AD to have to hire their new Head Coaches for Football, Basketball and Baseball. All of their Men's head coaches in their big three sports are underperforming.

It is all about intersecting storylines. Dodd's stepping down before the end of the year, RIGHT before we have that January meeting to announce the change in the NCAA? Which very likely will bring about the changes that allow for our last phase of realignment to happen. I can see why Dodds would rather retire and move into that advisor role before all this happens. That way what is about to happen to Texas won't be done on his watch.

The Hairy Bovine had a reported rumor earlier today that Bowlsby would be the hire for another reason....he's a PAC guy. This guy reported that the same sources that said Deloss would be gone also said that they expected Texas to move to the PAC. Another guy reported that he had heard from someone in the know (fwiw) that they would be independent within 4 years. Of course the former brings the 4 team to the PAC specter back up (but with no mention of the Oklahoma's at this point) and the latter is more in line with Texas to the ACC with a ND deal.

It certainly will get interesting again. The whole ESPN angle still makes me believe that it will be the ACC if Texas makes this kind of move. The indy status would really solve some of their issues. I still can't see them going to the ACC without an entourage however. I still think the smartest move that could be made by the ACC is releasing N.C. State and Virginia Tech to the SEC and forming a 4 team Western Pod made up of former Big 12 schools.

They are at 14 full and N.D. now. They would be at 12 full plus N.D. prior to the move. It's doable and would make more sense than taking Texas and one other. The only way Texas to the ACC makes any sense with just the Longhorns would be if N.D. were joining in full with them to make 16. The the Horns could schedule the Aggies at the end of the year with the ACC/SEC rivalry close of the season games. Kansas and Oklahoma would then be an option for the Big 10, or SEC, and the grouping you've talked about could still complete the PAC.

If the Texahoma deal to the PAC comes about it will get interesting. I guess the Big 10 would be looking at Kansas and either Iowa State or UConn. The SEC would likely be looking at Baylor and West Virginia. But truthfully between Kansas and Iowa there are almost 6 million more viewers. I guess the SEC could take Kansas State and Iowa State and come out ahead on markets but it wouldn't be a comfortable fit. Maybe then either West Virgina or UConn or both go to the ACC. But any way you look at it if Texahoma to the PAC occurs the options for both the Big 10 and SEC get much slimmer.

Well, you know me and my position. For me all of these latest rumors only strengthen my belief in what will inevitably happen.

The one supposition about Bowlsby as Texas AD hinting to us of PAC favoritism by the Texas President and Boosters, well that just doesn't sit with me. Stanford was just one stop for Bowlsby. In fact, he spent Much more time at The University of Iowa. 07-coffee3

On the contrary, the choosing of Bowlsby for me is more about keeping him singing the tune that Texas has been writing for him this whole time. I think he is most deserved of a huge contract with the University of Texas considering what we are about to watch these Universities embark upon at the start of the coming year.

To be honest, I cannot blame DeLoss Dodds at all for not wanting to be at the helm when this begins. Better to receive the same pay he receives now but to be less responsible when all of this breaks open. There are going to be quite a few angry boosters no doubt. That too, is inevitable. Considering Dodds will be making the same pay, I would say it is inevitable that they will HAVE to pay the new AD More than him. Who is more deserving of such pay than Commissioner Bowlsby?

Texas....Independent....to the ACC. The extended circumstances of that are of course still debatable. If the Big 12 must be ended, then there is no better situation for Texas than Independence, with ties to the ACC AND to ESPN while still being able to maintain their LHN. They will have a massive upgrade in ALL OTHER SPORTS by being part of the ACC. There are many sports that the "Gentry" at UT would probably love to see their dandy boys and girls taking part in but unfortunately their more "common" neighbors in the Big 12 do not and will not take part in while still part of the Big 12.

Baylor shows the most promise as to being able to have impressive showing in many sports that the ACC supports. Between TCU and Tech, whom do you think the ACC would rather have? For me, the choice is obvious.

That matches up just fine with the rise of Texas Tech football that we are about to see. Their inclusion into the PAC would be wonderful for them. The PAC Network would definitely get some airplay in Texas. I think we are about to see a rise of Tech as we have seen in A&M.

The timing of everything is quite impressive. That includes the gameplay of certain schools on the field that only enforces these such choices.

Look at Baylor. Their football team is one of the most exciting offensive displays now on a yearly basis. Their basketball team is most surprising as is their women's basketball. Their Stadium under constructions is applauded by many. It will be loved by ESPN should Baylor move into the ACC.

Under Patterson, TCU will continue to be shown much love by the polls AND ESPN should they too move into the ACC. We have already seen just how F'n powerful ESPN is when it comes to showcasing their true brands. Only the ACC and SEC get to have their names showcased with the ESPN brand name.

The trio of Texas as partial member as well as Baylor and TCU as full members of the ACC will very much be pleasing to ESPN. The ACC will have the largest population footprint AND it will have three programs in King State of College Football.

ESPN may not like Realignment but if it is going to happen anyways, then ESPN is going to guide it in a way that best suits their bottom line.

That is why Texas will go to the ACC. The ACC Network was never going to happen and when this move happens, there will be zero calls for mutiny within the ACC. No Network, but a full seat at the table and strong ties into two out of the three main States when it comes to Recruiting.

I fully understand why you still hold some hope for getting Virginia Tech and NC State but when you look at this situation, why would they?
09-13-2013 10:43 PM
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RE: If the SEC did expand again and did so from the Big 12 who should we take and why? - He1nousOne - 09-13-2013 10:43 PM
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