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So much for all the fluff from the C-USA board about how everyone is "so happy" with C-USA

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ANDREW JONES

Pirates may be stuck between a rock and a hard


When East Carolina's search for a greener pasture in football landed it in Conference USA eight years ago, and in all sports a few years later, it didn't envision the league's current condition.

Off to the Big East next summer are C-USA's top football/basketball combo programs from Louisville and Cincinnati. South Florida, Marquette and DePaul are also heading to the Big East. TCU is joining the Mountain West Conference and Charlotte and St. Louis are moving to the Atlantic 10.

The landscape of C-USA is changing and it's not for the better. Conference USA as we know it is a solid football league and top heavy in hoops. But when Tulsa, Rice, SMU, UTEP, Marshall and Central Florida join on July 1, 2005, the league may not be as strong as the Western Athletic Conference in football or the Mid-American Conference in basketball.

Marshall will continue to excel on the gridiron and Tulsa and Memphis should usually have nice basketball squads. But the other schools offer very little, if anything, in the revenue sports.

Because of its recent football woes, ECU has lost the recognition it held on the gridiron just a few years ago, and has become an obscure football program, like many of the schools joining the league.

That the Pirates were more successful prior to entering C-USA may only be a coincidence, but the reality is rebuilding will be harder when aligning with a cast of characters more suited as homecoming fodder for bigger programs than rivals for a school with ECU's aspirations.

The Atlantic Coast Conference's continued rise on the field and its expansion, adding Virginia Tech and Miami this summer and Boston College next year, will only make life more difficult for ECU.

ECU suddenly finds itself in a mediocre at-best conference with little room to grow. Travel for non-revenue sports is expensive and only Marshall could likely develop into a legitimate regional rival.

Thus, it's time for the brass at ECU to seek alternatives.

The school must hire an athletic director with a vision. No moves will be made as long as Nick Floyd is interim athletic director.

ECU must either hire him permanently or get someone else.

The school made noise about wanting to join the ACC last summer but was never taken seriously and likely never will. They also wined and dined folks from the Big East but more than fell short of receiving an offer. But with an athletic director in place it should go for it again – but for football only.

The Big East needs teams, and after being pillaged by the ACC would do well in grabbing a program in the heart of ACC country.

Plus, ECU has some football culture and just a few years ago was far stronger than Cincinnati and was at least as good – and often better – than Louisville.

ECU will never gain full membership into the Big East, which is fine. It can try to get back into the Colonial Athletic Association for all other sports.

And after the CAA added Georgia State earlier this week, it's clear a football conference isn't the only thing on CAA commissioner Tom Yeager's mind, since GSU doesn't have a gridiron team.

Travel costs will be cut and the Pirates' baseball program will play a competitive schedule in the CAA. Conference USA's power rating is No. 7, the CAA's is No. 11, but 45-8 ECU is a big reason C-USA is the higher-profile baseball conference.

Conference USA has been good to ECU in several areas, but the league's future doesn't appear stable, and its members' interests and locations don't appear to mesh with ECU.

While Pirates' fans don't flock to games like some might have you believe, they still have a nice solid base of support and will embrace Big East membership.

A return to the CAA in other sports would also rekindle the hoops rivalry with UNC-Wilmington, and playing Big East football will fulfill many purple and gold dreams.

It won't be easy and may not be possible, but is the most sensible approach. Because otherwise ECU will be a vagabond program with a beautiful, but empty, stadium.

Andrew Jones can be reached at andrew.jones@starnewsonline.com
05-28-2004 05:45 AM
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:stupid: :stupid:

Gee guy, did the article get your panties all squinched up? Let me give you a quote about the author of that opinion piece from capital pirate on the CUSA board.

Quote:FTR (as was made clear the FIRST time this was posted)....the writer of this "opinion" piece has NO connection to ECU WHATSOEVER....he is a beat writer for the Wilmington,NC (a town 3+hours from Greenville) Star who lives in Raleigh, NC - and has admitted subsequent to writing the piece that he is a devout UNC-ch/ACC fan.......

OK, you can start pulling the wedgie out of your kitty kat!

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05-28-2004 08:17 AM
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Why so rude Gray Beard...no one has defended ECU more on these boards then I have....It seems to me it doesn't make a big difference if the writer is connected to ECU or not...he was just offering his thoughts and I don't think he was too far off....it seems like it is a very well know secert that the Pirates are unhappy in C-USA...At least the Memphis fans acknowledge that there school is unhappy....most of you ECU people seem like you are just putting your head in the sand and pretending that you school is actullay happy with the road trips to Houston and El Paso

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05-28-2004 10:11 AM
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[Get real and be honest Jackson, you are a football fan going on a road trip....would you rather go to El Paso/Juarez , Houston or frigin Syracuse???? QUOTE]


--Frankly...I want to go to the place that is the closest and cheapest...Which is why WVU's schedule is great...we will be playing Pitt, Louisville, UC and Maryland annually and all are within easy driving distance of WV

--Besides....watching the Mounties play Syracuse in the Carrier Dome isn't such a hardship :)

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Jackson1011 Wrote:So much for all the fluff from the C-USA board about how everyone is "so happy" with C-USA

Jackson
You don't really think that you've found some profound piece of evidence, do you. There are more than a few teams that are nervous about the future of CUSA (mine included).

...but the opinions of a hack sports writer pushing for them to move all sports other than football back to the CAA are laughable.
05-28-2004 11:54 AM
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TopCoog Wrote:The carrier Dome is a dump when you could come to Houston and play is the best stadium in America, Reliant.
Hey TopCoog go ask fans of over "big name" schools whether they would rather play at Houston or at Syracuse. Look at the teams Syracuse has got to come to their "dump".
05-28-2004 12:10 PM
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its true, ECU is not happy with being left out on a island in CUSA .we wanted the Big East.in the near future the BE will split. WVU, are great friend, will lobby hard for ECU, to be part of the expanded 12 team all sports conference that will spin off from the bball BE schools. i still stand by the notion that if, WVU and ECU win big, in the next few years. the SEC, will make the call, and add both these football first schools 04-cheers
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Only ECU fans would even suggest that the SEC would want ECU. :rolleyes:
05-28-2004 12:50 PM
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pirate65 Wrote:its true, ECU is not happy with being left out on a island in CUSA .we wanted the Big East.in the near future the BE will split. WVU, are great friend, will lobby hard for ECU, to be part of the expanded 12 team all sports conference that will spin off from the bball BE schools. i still stand by the notion that if, WVU and ECU win big, in the next few years. the SEC, will make the call, and add both these football first schools 04-cheers
ECU is a football school? Did I miss something or did you win 1 game last year? But you won 4 the year before so I guess that makes you a football school huh.
Why would the Big East want another Rutgers in football and a nobody in CUSA basketball? DId you win a road CUSA BBall game yet?
05-28-2004 12:53 PM
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TopCoog Wrote:The carrier Dome is a dump when you could come to Houston and play is the best stadium in America, Reliant.
Time to put down the crack pipe Coog.

Houston does not play their games in Reliant Stadium. At least, not the college team.

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Quote: massive renovation of Robertson Stadium took place in 1999, thanks to a $6 million gift from the John and Julie O'Quinn Foundation to the University of Houston. In addition to the 20 luxury suites added in the summer of 1998, "Phase I" entailed replacement of the current track with a ring of tiered seating, bringing the stadium's capacity to 32,000. To accommodate this tiered seating, the entire playing field was lowered nine feet.


As opposed to:

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Quote:The Carrier Dome is a 50,000-seat sports stadium located on the campus of Syracuse University (SU). Since its opening on September 20, 1980, the facility has hosted a wide variety of events. The facility serves as the home of the SU Orangemen in football, men's basketball, and men's and women's lacrosse. Furthermore, the "Dome" has hosted numerous rounds of NCAA championships in basketball, lacrosse and track and field and hosts regional and state scholastic competitions in football, soccer and field hockey, as well as NBA pre-season games.


I mean, they AVERAGE more in BASKETBALL than you guys seat for football.

At least be a little realistic when you blather on about your program and their reservations at the head table of elitism.
05-28-2004 12:56 PM
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