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RE: Will Memphis be able to handle BE football?
Maybe.
05-24-2012 10:21 AM
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RE: Will Memphis be able to handle BE football?
(05-24-2012 09:29 AM)bullet Wrote:  
(05-24-2012 09:19 AM)miko33 Wrote:  A little change up to discuss recent conference move instead of chasing down the wild rumors floating around in the blogoshpere.

The history of Memphis football is pretty bad. There's no way to sugar coat this. Now Memphis is going up the ladder to compete against better competition. How will Memphis cope? Will they see recruiting advantages now that they are in the BE? I like Memphis but I'm skeptical that their FB prowess will get better once they are in the BE. Time will tell, but I think Memphis was a BB add to pacify Georgetown, Villanova, etc.

I think it's easy for everyone to come up with new configurations for conference alighments. But what about discussions on how the recent conference moves will pan out? I think this is also a good discussion that is being overlooked at the moment.

What are your thoughts?

Cincinnati was pretty bad until a couple years before their BE invite. Memphis has been really bad since UL, UC and USF moved to BE. They will get back on parity with UC and USF.


Memphis was not beating UL,UC and USF when they were in CUSA. Stranger things have happened, but I don't think Memphis is going to change much.
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RE: Will Memphis be able to handle BE football?
Record five years from entrance to BE:
Cincinnati- 7-5, 7-5, 7-7, 5-7, 7-5
Memphis- 2-10, 7-6, 6-7, 2-10, 1-11, 2-10

Not quite sure if you can say Cincinnati was as bad as Memphis when they joined the Big East. Cincinnati was much more consistent prior to joining the Big East than Memphis. What's more, those UC Rick Minter teams of the early 2000s actually underachieved in the eyes of most Bearcat fans considering the talent that was on the rosters. They likley should have won 9-10 games several times during that stretch.

Cincinnati is historically a bad program, but starting in the mid to late 1990s they had started to make drastic overall improvements that was the ultimate genesis for what they were able to pull off in the early 2000s and upon their admittance to the Big East.

The key for Memphis will be to get the right coaches in place who can recruit and build a winning program. When UC joined the Big East they were able to attract quality coaches that got the team over the mediocre hump that Rick Minter simply was not able to do (Mark Dantonio, Brian Kelly and now Butch Jones).
05-24-2012 10:37 AM
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RE: Will Memphis be able to handle BE football?
Memphis seems to have a lot in place to start turning it around.
05-24-2012 10:37 AM
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RE: Will Memphis be able to handle BE football?
(05-24-2012 10:00 AM)War Torn Ruston Wrote:  
(05-24-2012 09:50 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  
(05-24-2012 09:48 AM)War Torn Ruston Wrote:  The only reason Memphis was called out is because they are a Big East team. We all know this. And yet we all play along like a bunch of Lemmings.

Nope we mocked them when they were in C-USA. It's easy to mock the weak and helpless. It's not like their football team will ever do anything to make us stop. 03-nutkick

OK then. Going by that logic you no longer have the right to complain when someone says ECU is weak and helpless since they were not worthy of a conference upgrade.
You know as well as everyone else that this particular tool goes out of his way to mock the Big East since he is no longer a member. Just like when Pitt was in the Big East he would tell people like me that Boise could not be in the Big East because they did not have the academics...........and yet here we are.
You know how Memphis will compete in the Big East? No worse than Pitt. Pitt has never outright won a Big East championship and in basketball they are a middle of the road team in the Big East.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_East_Conference

That is since 1991 for football. Let's wait 20 years and see if Memphis can accomplish what Pitt couldn't. An outright championship.

I don't get why go out of your way to attack people. I have no axe to grind against Memphis or the BE. Why do you think that I do? I want to talk about how some of the new members coming into the conferences will do when it's time to begin conference play.

I don't understand why you have this thing with me over Boise going to the BE. Earlier, I did not believe Boise would ever get an invite because of academics. I was right. However, the BE conf when through an "Armageddon", and because of that their earlier criteria was thrown out the window. Surely you know why Boise was added to the BE - to save AQ status. Nothing more. Now AQ is gone and we have already seen all of these rumors of Boise having second thoughts. Well, are you surprised? Of course not because the one thing Boise was supposed to deliver is no longer there. I'm sure both sides are rethinking things now - it's only natural.
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RE: Will Memphis be able to handle BE football?
All I can say is somebody has to finish at the bottom of the conference.

We like to do polls on who'll finish in first.

Do a poll on who the BigEasters pick at the bottom of the conference?

My guess is it would be Memphis.

But take it a step further with a poll for Memphis fans only and who would they pick at the bottom.

It would be interesting to see their answers.
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05-24-2012 10:59 AM
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RE: Will Memphis be able to handle BE football?
(05-24-2012 10:39 AM)miko33 Wrote:  
(05-24-2012 10:00 AM)War Torn Ruston Wrote:  
(05-24-2012 09:50 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  
(05-24-2012 09:48 AM)War Torn Ruston Wrote:  The only reason Memphis was called out is because they are a Big East team. We all know this. And yet we all play along like a bunch of Lemmings.

Nope we mocked them when they were in C-USA. It's easy to mock the weak and helpless. It's not like their football team will ever do anything to make us stop. 03-nutkick

OK then. Going by that logic you no longer have the right to complain when someone says ECU is weak and helpless since they were not worthy of a conference upgrade.
You know as well as everyone else that this particular tool goes out of his way to mock the Big East since he is no longer a member. Just like when Pitt was in the Big East he would tell people like me that Boise could not be in the Big East because they did not have the academics...........and yet here we are.
You know how Memphis will compete in the Big East? No worse than Pitt. Pitt has never outright won a Big East championship and in basketball they are a middle of the road team in the Big East.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_East_Conference

That is since 1991 for football. Let's wait 20 years and see if Memphis can accomplish what Pitt couldn't. An outright championship.

I don't get why go out of your way to attack people. I have no axe to grind against Memphis or the BE. Why do you think that I do? I want to talk about how some of the new members coming into the conferences will do when it's time to begin conference play.

I don't understand why you have this thing with me over Boise going to the BE. Earlier, I did not believe Boise would ever get an invite because of academics. I was right. However, the BE conf when through an "Armageddon", and because of that their earlier criteria was thrown out the window. Surely you know why Boise was added to the BE - to save AQ status. Nothing more. Now AQ is gone and we have already seen all of these rumors of Boise having second thoughts. Well, are you surprised? Of course not because the one thing Boise was supposed to deliver is no longer there. I'm sure both sides are rethinking things now - it's only natural.
Usually people like you do the things you do because of jealousy or because you feel betrayed because of something.
When you were in the Big East you felt the need to upstage the ACC while you consistently talked down to C-USA members.
Then you started to talk down to MWC members when they showed up and accused me of being someone else you had a problem with in the past.
After the move by Pitt and Syracuse you start going on a post rampage on how the Big East was a joke and how they did nothing right going completely against everything you used to say. You ended up getting a ban for a while because your trolling got so bad. Talking about how the ACC deserves MSG and other idiotic statements.
And you love your academics. I am glad you are happy with your academics. It is a real shame no one was there to teach you not to be a dick to everyone you think is below your standards.
You know nothing about me, you probably do not know much about Memphis or ECU, and you obviously do not know dick about the Pacific Northwest and things on this side of the Pacific.
Boise State has used money for football to add new classes and research. That money has not went on the football team. If it did our new renovations would of been done already. Plus The U of I makes sure we get no help from the state. Schools like Pitt and Boston College have been around forever. It takes time to build things up. Boise State is new by University standards.
I know you can read and I know you have seen people roll their eyes at about everything you say. I have seen people call you a troll or tell you that everything you right is pointless babble meant to stir the pot. I am not sure what screwed up tragedy made you the ass that you are but I am not sure how you can be proud of yourself knowing that no one really likes you. I guess you get off on it.
I just don't care anymore. That is why I do not get into these little battles with you anymore. You don't know $hit and hardly have a link for your endless attacks on anything that Pitt does not have their paws in or Big East / Boise related.
Trolling a college football board? Smack talk about academics when the chances are pretty good that Boise State helped with my life direction and now I am living a pretty easy life. BSU did its job. What did Pitt do for you? To me and a lot of people on here the answer would be simple. Made you a pretty pathetic person who does nothing but irritate others. The internet equivalent of a few punks trying to start trouble with a couple on a date. My guess is the Pitt fanbase deserves better.
And since you wanna know how Memphis will do then how about that BS thread on Pitt to the Pac-12. How will they do against Oregon, USC, and Stanford? My guess is they get the beat up and down the field. How about The Big 12? What if Pitt goes there? My guess is fan support starts dropping because they can't compete.
Don't worry about Memphis. Pitt has their own problems.
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RE: Will Memphis be able to handle BE football?
(05-24-2012 09:19 AM)miko33 Wrote:  A little change up to discuss recent conference move instead of chasing down the wild rumors floating around in the blogoshpere.

The history of Memphis football is pretty bad. There's no way to sugar coat this. Now Memphis is going up the ladder to compete against better competition. How will Memphis cope? Will they see recruiting advantages now that they are in the BE? I like Memphis but I'm skeptical that their FB prowess will get better once they are in the BE. Time will tell, but I think Memphis was a BB add to pacify Georgetown, Villanova, etc.

I think it's easy for everyone to come up with new configurations for conference alighments. But what about discussions on how the recent conference moves will pan out? I think this is also a good discussion that is being overlooked at the moment.

What are your thoughts?

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(05-24-2012 09:49 AM)blunderbuss Wrote:  in all seriousness Memphis should have been added with UL, UC and USF after the first ACC raid. At that time they were a decent football program.

Agree 100% instead of adding Marquette and DePaul. Memphis and UCF should have been added.
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Memphis to BEast ... next thing you're going to tell is that San Diego State is going to the BEast ... ha, ha, ha, ... what, you mean it's not a joke? Well, at least Memphis won't have far to travel to finish in the bottom of the conference.
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