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FSU BOT Chair Blasts ACC,Opens Door for Big 12
boom.

"Until now, everyone officially associated with Florida State has publicly supported the recently announced television deal between the Atlantic Coast Conference and ESPN/ABC.

That is no longer the case.

In an exclusive interview with Warchant.com, Florida State Board of Trustees Chairman Andy Haggard blasted the agreement that will net each ACC school approximately $17 million per year through 2026-27.


Florida State BOT Chairman Andy Haggard is among those displeased with the ACC's new TV contract.
While the new deal will result in an increase of nearly $4 million per school from the old contract, some of the terms have resulted in harsh criticism from Florida State fans and alumni. It has also drawn the ire of FSU's Board of Trustees' Chair.

"It's mind-boggling and shocking," said Haggard. "How can the ACC give up third tier rights for football but keep them for basketball?"

Haggard is referring to the fact that the ACC surrendered all third tier television rights for football to ESPN/ABC but kept them for men's basketball. That arrangement will likely result in substantial revenue for schools with a strong basketball following like North Carolina and Duke.On the other hand, it will do very little for schools with a more traditional football following like FSU, Clemson, Virginia Tech and Miami.

"It continues the perception that the ACC favors the North Carolina schools," noted Haggard.

Haggard added that he has received numerous emails from FSU fans and alumni since the deal was announced and estimates that about 95 percent are unhappy with the ACC's deal and how it will impact Florida State.

This overwhelming criticism over the ACC's handling of the new TV deal and FSU's recently announced financial shortcomings (projected $2.4 million deficit for 2012-13) have only added fuel to rumors of a potential move to the Big 12.

Haggard confirmed that as far as he knows there has been no contact between FSU and the Big 12 regarding possible expansion. However, he makes it very clear that he and the Board of Trustees would be more than open to exploring the possibility if it would mean additional revenue to the school.

"How do you not look into that option," asked Haggard. "On behalf of the Board of Trustees I can say that unanimously we would be in favor of seeing what the Big 12 might have to offer. We have to do what is in Florida State's best interest."

It has been reported that the new Big 12 television deal with ESPN/ABC will be result in each school receiving approximately $20 million per year. Were FSU and fellow ACC member Clemson to join the Big 12 that figure would go even higher. The SEC's new TV deal with Texas A&M and Missouri joining the conference is expected to be worth well over $20 million annually per school.

"With the SEC making the kind of money it does it's time to act," said Haggard. "You can't sit back and be content in the ACC. This is a different time financially. This isn't 10-15 years ago when money was rolling in."


Of the few who still support FSU staying in the ACC, most cite the number of well-regarded academic institutions within the conference. However, Haggard scoffed at the idea that the ACC somehow helps FSU's academic reputation.

"No FSU graduate puts on his resume or interviews for a job saying they are in the same conference as Duke and Virginia," he said. "Conference affiliation really has no impact on academics."


Haggard concluded that he will be speaking with FSU president Eric Barron and Athletic Director Randy Spetman about the best way to proceed in exploring options outside of the ACC. "


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RE: FSU BOT Chair Blasts ACC,Opens Door for Big 12
BTW Chip Brown tweeted a heads up for this article hours earlier.
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Can't wait to see the ACC fans on the board spin that one.
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(05-12-2012 02:34 PM)OldGoldnBlue Wrote:  Can't wait to see the ACC fans on the board spin that one.

Nothing too spin. Clear as day if you asked me.
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I guess those darn "rumors" won't be going away after all.
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(05-12-2012 02:46 PM)juveeer Wrote:  I guess those darn "rumors" won't be going away after all.

Its not a rumor anymore.

I got a thick skin I can eat crow.
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(05-12-2012 02:44 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  
(05-12-2012 02:34 PM)OldGoldnBlue Wrote:  Can't wait to see the ACC fans on the board spin that one.

Nothing too spin. Clear as day if you asked me.

Not good for ACC stability eh? That was brutal. I think some people on this board need to come around and realize that a raid of the ACC is a very real possibility.

Maybe WVU insiders knew what they were talking about.
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and so it continues....
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(05-12-2012 02:47 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  
(05-12-2012 02:46 PM)juveeer Wrote:  I guess those darn "rumors" won't be going away after all.

Its not a rumor anymore.

I got a thick skin I can eat crow.

You guys need to pull a TCU.
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(05-12-2012 02:52 PM)juveeer Wrote:  
(05-12-2012 02:47 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  
(05-12-2012 02:46 PM)juveeer Wrote:  I guess those darn "rumors" won't be going away after all.

Its not a rumor anymore.

I got a thick skin I can eat crow.

You guys need to pull a TCU.

This. Would much rather have you guys than the Ville. It would be a win win. We both get paid and keep our rivalry
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Maybe we need to start listening to these dag gon Mountaineers fans after all.....LOL

FSU/Clemson/UL/UC to Big 12->Big 14
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(05-12-2012 02:56 PM)dgrace4cards Wrote:  Maybe we need to start listening to these dag gon Mountaineers fans after all.....LOL

FSU/Clemson/UL/UC to Big 12->Big 14

I really thought you and Clemson would be the first two with FSU and another ACC team to be named later
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(05-12-2012 02:47 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  
(05-12-2012 02:46 PM)juveeer Wrote:  I guess those darn "rumors" won't be going away after all.

Its not a rumor anymore.

I got a thick skin I can eat crow.



There are several others that need to follow your lead on this. Guess it was not just a bunch of WVU fans making this stuff up after all.
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(05-12-2012 02:56 PM)OldGoldnBlue Wrote:  
(05-12-2012 02:56 PM)dgrace4cards Wrote:  Maybe we need to start listening to these dag gon Mountaineers fans after all.....LOL

FSU/Clemson/UL/UC to Big 12->Big 14

I really thought you and Clemson would be the first two with FSU and another ACC team to be named later

That would be a win/win/win/win for everyone and especially for WVU. You would have a bridge & existing rivalries with UC & UofL. To the South and can put "70" on Clemson again...04-cheers04-rock04-cheers and have your current access to Florida.

Plus, on the field and on the court it would be a monster league. You would have the BIG EAST Champs/Co-Champs 4 out of the past five years in 2008 UC, 2009, UC, 2010 WVU/UConn, 2011 UofL, UC & WVU.

In Basketball you have WVU coming off the 2010 Final Four and Louisville coming off the 2012 Final Four and likely #1 or #2 going into next season in Men Basketball.
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(05-12-2012 02:55 PM)OldGoldnBlue Wrote:  
(05-12-2012 02:52 PM)juveeer Wrote:  
(05-12-2012 02:47 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  
(05-12-2012 02:46 PM)juveeer Wrote:  I guess those darn "rumors" won't be going away after all.

Its not a rumor anymore.

I got a thick skin I can eat crow.

You guys need to pull a TCU.

This. Would much rather have you guys than the Ville. It would be a win win. We both get paid and keep our rivalry



I would be good with either Pitt or Maryland. Pros and cons to both. Definitely Clemson.
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:phew:First time I've ever heard the chairman of the board going public with an opinion on expansion. Must be trying to put public pressure on the FSU president, who must be dragging his feet.

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Or sorry UC fans...but if Pitt were to pull a TCU and come along with UL, FSU, and Clemson....shores up basketball even more, preserves WVU rilvary....
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you know.....those 3rd tier football rights being turned over to ESPN/ABC just means more games on ESPN3 (internet streaming). Just gives ESPN more content for their online service.

I'm not surprised the F$U BOT Chairman is pissed off. That's content F$U can easily sell to Sun Sports or FSN Florida. Or to use to help create a school network. Either way, that's a lost revenue stream for them.

we'll see what comes of this.
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(05-12-2012 03:13 PM)ECMAN79 Wrote:  you know.....those 3rd tier football rights being turned over to ESPN/ABC just means more games on ESPN3 (internet streaming). Just gives ESPN more content for their online service.

I'm not surprised the F$U BOT Chairman is pissed off. That's content F$U can easily sell to Sun Sports or FSN Florida. Or to use to help create a school network. Either way, that's a lost revenue stream for them.

we'll see what comes of this.

Games on ESPN3 suck. They just do. The streaming quality is awful.
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