tyler90wm
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RE: Public Opinion on Candidates
WKU would definitely be out on an island if MTSU did happen to leave
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asumike83
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RE: Public Opinion on Candidates
(04-15-2012 10:30 PM)chiefsfan Wrote: I mentioned that earlier. This will not happen before May 25th from the Southern perspective. App is the only one we could potentially get on short notice for this year outside of the Texas twins.
One thing worth noting is that our AD is rumored to be on the short list of candidates for the Southern Miss job. Might end up being nothing but if he were to leave, it would put us in an odd position.
Honestly, I am of the opinion that App will not be going anywhere until at least a year from now regardless of what happens with him. There are a lot of dominoes that have to fall first and I would be very surprised to see the activity pick up that much in the next month.
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Side Show Joe
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RE: Public Opinion on Candidates
I can't understand the logic in determining which teams to add, until you know for sure how many teams, if any, you are losing. Also, you need to know where you will lose them, and what programs will be avalible. If Sun Belt loses markets, then it had better add markets. If the Belt doesn't lose markets, then there is more room to work with. There may be some FBS programs avalible that might reduce or even remove any need to add more FCS programs. Also, where is UTSA? They are no lock for C-USA.
Of these choices, I think Appy State is the most deserving and ready, but I honestly don't believe the Sun Belt will lose enough teams to merit FCS expansion. Just my opinion.
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chiefsfan
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RE: Public Opinion on Candidates
(04-15-2012 10:36 PM)tyler90wm Wrote: WKU would definitely be out on an island if MTSU did happen to leave
I believe if they do leave that the conference will really have to consider moving them to the West if we go 12 in football. Without MTSU, the closest East school would be in Atlanta, quite a long ways away.
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WinstonTheWolf
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RE: Public Opinion on Candidates
Who in the hell would vote for Ga Southern? Estupido.
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TrojanCampaign
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RE: Public Opinion on Candidates
(04-15-2012 10:56 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote: I can't understand the logic in determining which teams to add, until you know for sure how many teams, if any, you are losing. Also, you need to know where you will lose them, and what programs will be avalible. If Sun Belt loses markets, then it had better add markets. If the Belt doesn't lose markets, then there is more room to work with. There may be some FBS programs avalible that might reduce or even remove any need to add more FCS programs. Also, where is UTSA? They are no lock for C-USA.
Of these choices, I think Appy State is the most deserving and ready, but I honestly don't believe the Sun Belt will lose enough teams to merit FCS expansion. Just my opinion.
Because all of the schools don't have tall buildings to hide behind. The alliance might have the luxury to wait until the deadline because UNT, UNCC, La Tech, San Jose, Utah St and UTSA are basically begging to get in and would accept on a days notice.
Say June first or July whenever it is comes and we didn't add anyone and lost 3-4 of our ten teams. This instantly puts the Sun Belt in the red zone in terms of being a FBS conference and would lose everything the remaining teams have worked for if no one was added quickly in two years, meaning we would be at the mercy of FCS teams to survive not them being at our mercy to move up.
This is why it's smart to invite now while we still have all of our members it gives them time to get assimilated and make all the preparations for FBS instead of waiting. Heck, look at the media coverage Georgia St got and how their alumni are going to be donating all the way until they become FBS.
Congrats on UNT for being able to move on but some of us just prefer not to see the Sun Belt drop to 6-7 teams and be on life support like the WAC is right now. If we only lose 2 or no teams then good for us, keep the FCS teams and get a conference championship with divisions.
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GoApps70
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RE: Public Opinion on Candidates
I just don't know what to say. I know that Appalachian State is the best choice of the three. Of course I am very prejudiced. Anyone that has done indepth analysis should tell you that. If an FCS team is going to declare they have to send word to the NCAA before May 25th.
What bothers me is that it seems that Benson is working off the "good ole boy" philosophy. Which means he may say whatever and then just take in the old WAC schools. He knew someone well with GaState and they get in right away because the CAA might raise fees for leaving the CAA. CAA didn't because they couldn't get a quorum together. Sounds like they probably may never pass that. Some say the CAA did it to get GaState to go ahead and get the SBC deal done. Don't know.
Just know that any of the three teams mentioned would probably be good SBC candidates. Don't want to dish on any school. Just bet that if Benson does add App State that three and five years down the road, bet most of you will be saying that it was a slam dunk and you didn't even know it.
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b0ndsj0ns
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RE: Public Opinion on Candidates
(04-15-2012 09:59 PM)panama Wrote: Yet another thread turning into the ButtHurt Hotel
And yet another thread with you talking down to fans of schools who have actually accomplished something. You are starting to remind me of a rivals UCF fan, and that's about as big an insult as I can give any fan. I have no real dog in this fight, but wow I remember the days when you had to win something at something before you ran around acting like you were superior to everyone.
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panama
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RE: Public Opinion on Candidates
Yes, there is the matter of you not having a dog in this fight. This is getting ridiculous with the people getting inordinately upset. This is real simple. Texas State is a candidate. App is a candidate. GaSo is not a candidate. They are not ready. Their President says they need $4.5M added to their budget. They need a student fee increase. Neither of those will happen in the next 7 weeks. So why talk about a candidate that logically is not a candidate.
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panama
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RE: Public Opinion on Candidates
(04-16-2012 02:52 AM)GoApps70 Wrote: I just don't know what to say. I know that Appalachian State is the best choice of the three. Of course I am very prejudiced. Anyone that has done indepth analysis should tell you that. If an FCS team is going to declare they have to send word to the NCAA before May 25th.
What bothers me is that it seems that Benson is working off the "good ole boy" philosophy. Which means he may say whatever and then just take in the old WAC schools. He knew someone well with GaState and they get in right away because the CAA might raise fees for leaving the CAA. CAA didn't because they couldn't get a quorum together. Sounds like they probably may never pass that. Some say the CAA did it to get GaState to go ahead and get the SBC deal done. Don't know.
Just know that any of the three teams mentioned would probably be good SBC candidates. Don't want to dish on any school. Just bet that if Benson does add App State that three and five years down the road, bet most of you will be saying that it was a slam dunk and you didn't even know it.
We were already in way before 4/9. What was accelerated was the announcement of the invite and public acceptance. People keep blaming Benson as if the Presidents are hostages. They voted for us. They could have voted no. They could put up alternate candidates aand I am sure they have. But the actual remaining are the five we have been talking about for weeks, 2 of which are in this poll.
As for the CAA, Yeager's office is in reactionary panic mode. If they lose GMU and VCU they are toast. He had to do something. Of course, I would have privately made sure I was going to get a quorum on the conference call beforehand.
*facepalm*
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