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RE: Undefeated and a BCS game?
(04-11-2012 11:36 AM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  
(04-11-2012 11:24 AM)EA3 Wrote:  
(04-11-2012 11:15 AM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  
(04-11-2012 11:04 AM)EA3 Wrote:  Boise and TCU were both ranked higher than Ball St that year in the BCS. Correct me if I am wrong, but the BCS took a 12-0 Boise team...thus negating Ball St's chances even if they had won.

We can talk about what-ifs all we want. The fact of the matter is that Ball St still didn't do it even after having a ridiculously easy schedule and only losing the MACC game.

When was the last time a MAC team went 13-0? Again, it's more likely to snow in Key West than a MAC team going 13-0 and making a BCS game.
1999

There is a reason they are no longer in the MAC.

I give up...you guys win.

Because they wanted to move up and dominate CUSA dispite the much longer travel?

Because at the time...they were light years ahead of our programs, looked down on us, and thought they deserved to be in a more prestigious conference that provided more revenue.

Using an outlier that was in our conference from 1997-2004...really doesn't equate to one of our current members.
04-11-2012 11:48 AM
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RE: Undefeated and a BCS game?
(04-11-2012 11:48 AM)EA3 Wrote:  
(04-11-2012 11:36 AM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  
(04-11-2012 11:24 AM)EA3 Wrote:  
(04-11-2012 11:15 AM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  
(04-11-2012 11:04 AM)EA3 Wrote:  Boise and TCU were both ranked higher than Ball St that year in the BCS. Correct me if I am wrong, but the BCS took a 12-0 Boise team...thus negating Ball St's chances even if they had won.

We can talk about what-ifs all we want. The fact of the matter is that Ball St still didn't do it even after having a ridiculously easy schedule and only losing the MACC game.

When was the last time a MAC team went 13-0? Again, it's more likely to snow in Key West than a MAC team going 13-0 and making a BCS game.
1999

There is a reason they are no longer in the MAC.

I give up...you guys win.

Because they wanted to move up and dominate CUSA dispite the much longer travel?

Because at the time...they were light years ahead of our programs, looked down on us, and thought they deserved to be in a more prestigious conference that provided more revenue.

Using an outlier that was in our conference from 1997-2004...really doesn't equate to one of our current members.

I still don't get why we can't use 2003 Mimai as the example. They would have been an AQ by todays rules.
04-11-2012 11:55 AM
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RE: Undefeated and a BCS game?
(04-11-2012 11:55 AM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  
(04-11-2012 11:48 AM)EA3 Wrote:  
(04-11-2012 11:36 AM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  
(04-11-2012 11:24 AM)EA3 Wrote:  
(04-11-2012 11:15 AM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  1999

There is a reason they are no longer in the MAC.

I give up...you guys win.

Because they wanted to move up and dominate CUSA dispite the much longer travel?

Because at the time...they were light years ahead of our programs, looked down on us, and thought they deserved to be in a more prestigious conference that provided more revenue.

Using an outlier that was in our conference from 1997-2004...really doesn't equate to one of our current members.

I still don't get why we can't use 2003 Mimai as the example. They would have been an AQ by todays rules.

Because that doesn't conform to his rhetoric.
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RE: Undefeated and a BCS game?
(04-11-2012 12:02 PM)Howl-n-Prowl Wrote:  
(04-11-2012 11:55 AM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  
(04-11-2012 11:48 AM)EA3 Wrote:  
(04-11-2012 11:36 AM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  
(04-11-2012 11:24 AM)EA3 Wrote:  There is a reason they are no longer in the MAC.

I give up...you guys win.

Because they wanted to move up and dominate CUSA dispite the much longer travel?

Because at the time...they were light years ahead of our programs, looked down on us, and thought they deserved to be in a more prestigious conference that provided more revenue.

Using an outlier that was in our conference from 1997-2004...really doesn't equate to one of our current members.

I still don't get why we can't use 2003 Mimai as the example. They would have been an AQ by todays rules.

Because that doesn't conform to his rhetoric.

They defeated BGSU twice which was the only ranked team they defeated.

They lost to Iowa 21-3 who ended the regular season with 3 losses yet some how were ranked #17...and Miami was ranked ahead of them!
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RE: Undefeated and a BCS game?
Ok, is it possible? Yes. Likely? Absolutely not.

Is everyone happy?
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(04-11-2012 12:13 PM)EA3 Wrote:  Ok, is it possible? Yes. Likely? Absolutely not.

Is everyone happy?

I think that is what everyone has been saying.
04-11-2012 01:26 PM
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Ball State would not have been able to go due to Utah going. TCU would not have counted that year since they were not the conference champ and both of those teams are now AQ so they no longer count anyway. Boise will be in the BE soon (next year?) so soon they will not be an issue. Opportunity is good but it is unlikely that we will be able to seize it as we are too good at upsetting each other.
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RE: Undefeated and a BCS game?
(04-11-2012 09:54 AM)EA3 Wrote:  
(04-11-2012 09:37 AM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  Toledo would have 3 OOC games, then Ohio, WMU, NIU, and another maybe two more West teams ala EMU, or Ball State.
That's 8, and as we established the MAC teams who went bowling were better than the MWC teams like Air Force, Wyoming, and SDSU.
We wouldn't have a big bruiser like Georgia, but Boise State could have been at 4th in the country if they swept their schedule. Toledo only needs to break the top 16.

6 MAC teams bowling? With Toledo being one and the other 5 on their schedule? Do you realize how tough it was to get 5 teams last year? Removing Temple from the equation hurts our chances because they were a desirable east coast team. In a year where USC and Miami, FL won enough games to go bowling, but were ineligible or declined invites...we were dangerously close to only sending 3 teams bowling.

And no, if Toledo wins out...they aren't going to be ranked in the top 16 of the BCS. They would need help from no less than 6 or 7 teams to have monster years. Wyoming, Arizona, Cincy, WMU, NIU, Ohio, Ball St, and Bowling Green would all have to win a minimum of 9 games.

Again...we have a better chance at seeing snow in Key West.

The Arguement was not bowling, but .500 or better. Because Boise state had 8 Bowl Eligible teams on their schedule.

What everyone has been saying is that it's more possible than you think, still highly unlikely because the only way we can achieve it is if the MAC has an undefeated team (most likely not OU) and there is one or two other 10 win teams.
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