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RE: Can anyone explain this?
Brovol - I'm not arguing anything about how our Constitution works. You're the expert here and, as I said in my earlier post, if we want to mandate health care on the national level we very well may have to amend the Constitution to do so. So, if that is what needs to happen, then let's start that process and see if we can get 2/3 of the states to agree. Although I personally believe that we should have a national health care system (that's a great distinction made by DB in his post I quoted below) I realize majority still rules in this country.

(03-28-2012 08:52 PM)DesertBronco Wrote:  I no longer think health insurance is a right. I think health care should be available to all, by however we as a country decide to make it available.

I also think that addressing the problem of the working poor being the only group not being insured and not having quality health care available to them is something we as a society should do for many reasons, including it's the right thing to do for all of us.

Agree with this 100%.

(03-28-2012 09:30 PM)DesertBronco Wrote:  Corporations get all the breaks, individual people get few. This healthcare debate is all about control being moved from the employer to the government, and I am working with principled people in a large corporation right now who are secretly hoping the government takes on a larger role and removes the burden from them.

Today more than ever, big corporations are all about their principles, shareholders, making a quick short term buck, and the employees are last.

And that's truly my major beef with the whole system as it currently exists. It's overwrought with excess costs and spending and, due to the fact that it exists ultimately for profit, it really only benefits the shareholders and folks at the top.

It's really more than health care - it's our whole mindset that's changed in this country. The fact that everything is now driven by short-term results on a meaningless spreadsheet or Powerpoint and translated into giant bonuses and stock options is the real failure. Nobody - from CEOs to politicians - is forced to think or plan long-term anymore and we all suffer because of that.
03-29-2012 08:18 AM
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Can anyone explain this? - chipfan - 03-27-2012, 10:52 PM
RE: Can anyone explain this? - ESSSS - 03-28-2012, 08:59 AM
RE: Can anyone explain this? - brovol - 03-28-2012, 11:05 AM
RE: Can anyone explain this? - chipfan - 03-28-2012, 12:09 PM
RE: Can anyone explain this? - ESSSS - 03-28-2012, 01:08 PM
RE: Can anyone explain this? - stdatwmu - 03-28-2012, 01:42 PM
RE: Can anyone explain this? - Chipdip - 03-28-2012, 02:08 PM
RE: Can anyone explain this? - stdatwmu - 03-28-2012, 05:17 PM
RE: Can anyone explain this? - brovol - 03-28-2012, 07:19 PM
RE: Can anyone explain this? - stdatwmu - 03-29-2012 08:18 AM
RE: Can anyone explain this? - brovol - 03-29-2012, 09:58 AM
RE: Can anyone explain this? - stdatwmu - 03-30-2012, 09:00 AM
RE: Can anyone explain this? - Chipdip - 03-28-2012, 09:17 PM
RE: Can anyone explain this? - Chipdip - 03-28-2012, 09:23 PM
RE: Can anyone explain this? - brovol - 03-29-2012, 06:10 AM
RE: Can anyone explain this? - brovol - 03-29-2012, 09:15 AM
RE: Can anyone explain this? - brovol - 03-29-2012, 10:43 AM
RE: Can anyone explain this? - brovol - 03-29-2012, 06:48 PM
RE: Can anyone explain this? - BCBronco - 03-30-2012, 08:42 AM



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