Quote:Actually according to NYT/CBS poll from a month ago the percentage of Catholics that favor free contraception as part of health care is higher than the national average (59% to 55).

Here's the question they didn't ask, (and please don't cite a NYT poll as proof anything, as their sampling always leans way left).

The question they didn't ask is this.
Should the federal government force the Catholic Church to provide insurance with a contraceptive rider, even though it goes completely against church doctrine?

The irony is the "separation of church and state zealots" turn a blind eye to that in this case, and embrace government as the end all know all.

Original Question
I was watching "Meet the Press" this morning and David Gregory kept repeating a question to Newt Gingrich about women being denied access to contraception.

What???? We've lost access to contraception? Women can't get birth control from their pharmacist? I can't go to Walgreens and pick up a condom? When did this happen?

Of course no one is being denied access to contraception. The 30 year old Georgetown law student who complained before Congress that she needed the tax payer to pay her $3000 contraceptive bill (cost over 4 years of law school because GT insurance won't cover birth control, as it's a Catholic College) stirred the pot of the left and drew swoons from the media this week. "Someone help this poor women score some contraceptives, please!!!!"

I fully understand that the DNC is trying to frame this argument to create a boogie man and give the appearance that access to contraception is being threatened, as well as distract the public from trillion dollar deficits, double digit unemployment, etc. I'M A LITTLE PERPLEXED THAT THE MAIN STREAM MEDIA FRAMES THE QUESTION THE EXACT SAME WAY, when it has NOTHING TO DO with access.

It's not about access, the question is this..................
Question: Should the tax payer be FORCED to pay for other peoples contraception?

(03-04-2012 02:21 PM)Chipdip Wrote:  please don't cite a NYT poll as proof anything, as their sampling always leans way left).

"(Conservatives,) they fear the truth, so resort to a diversion." (Already posted you are the master or at least most frequent user of that game).

Can't disprove the facts, attack the source.

Quote:Should the federal government force the Catholic Church to provide insurance with a contraceptive rider, even though it goes completely against church doctrine?

The irony is the "separation of church and state zealots" turn a blind eye to that in this case, and embrace government as the end all know all.

Had you been paying attention instead of blindly going off half-cocked (in search of a condom apparently), you would know the White House has addressed this.

But then that would weaken your attack. Never let the facts get in the way of a propaganda-laced rant.

Quote:Had you been paying attention instead of blindly going off half-cocked (in search of a condom apparently), you would know the White House has addressed this.

They did address it. They've stated point blank that they want all institutions, regardless of religious philosophy, to comply to the fine print in the 3000 page Obamacare document.

And then because they know they're on the wrong side of the issue they run and hide and try to frame it as "An issue of women's access to contraception." And the not so bright folks on the left (not saying you fall into that category) buy the false narrative, hook, line and sinker.

But as stated several times it is not a question of women having access to contraception, they all have access and plenty of it. The question, for which you continually duck and dodge is.........................

Question: Should the tax payer be FORCED to pay for other peoples contraception?

Asked and answered in Post #10. Man you are so upset you can't see straight - even for you. I even asked if I made you happy.

There's just no pleasing you.

(03-04-2012 02:21 PM)Chipdip Wrote:  please don't cite a NYT poll as proof anything, as their sampling always leans way left.

You can surely affirm that if the "Fair and Balanced" network posed the question and got similar results, it would have rushed the results onto the air with approbation - will of the majority, voice of the people etc.

Being "Fair and Balanced" and all.

Health center gives out free condoms at msu but they aren't trojans so I go to the store and spend 15 bucks on condoms. W/e **** the free world. #drunkpostfrom daytonabeachbitch.

(03-04-2012 01:45 PM)Chipdip Wrote:  

(03-04-2012 01:37 PM)Whinny1 Wrote:  A scored condom = destined to fail. Just sayin'.

How did you score one. David Gregory said on Meet the Press this morning that women were being denied access to contraception? Email me who your condom dealer is, mums the word.

Fer gawd's sakes, 'Dip. You're so set on making a political issue of this that my levity went right over your head. Let me connect the dots for you:

1. "Scored" also means to make a series of cuts in an object

2. A "scored" condom means that it is full of cut holes

3. Therefore, a "scored" condom is destined to fail in its intended purpose

Quote:But on behalf of the majority of American Catholics, I'll check "Yes" on your cute little message board poll!

Happy?

So now that we've affirmed that you feel all American's should pay for everyone elses condoms ($3000 in the case of the GT law student), how bout we just take it to a grass roots level.

This girl knocks on your door

Hello sir, I plan on having sex tonight with at least two guys---hopefully, several times. I need protection. I need you to pay for some condoms. Give me $7.


Well why should I have to buy them for you?


Cause you got the money.


Well I don't have $7 on me young lady


Sorry sir, you're now in violation of federal law, please put your hands behind your back.........

(03-04-2012 03:32 PM)Whinny1 Wrote:  

(03-04-2012 01:45 PM)Chipdip Wrote:  

(03-04-2012 01:37 PM)Whinny1 Wrote:  A scored condom = destined to fail. Just sayin'.

How did you score one. David Gregory said on Meet the Press this morning that women were being denied access to contraception? Email me who your condom dealer is, mums the word.

Fer gawd's sakes, 'Dip. You're so set on making a political issue of this that my levity went right over your head. Let me connect the dots for you:

1. "Scored" also means to make a series of cuts in an object

2. A "scored" condom means that it is full of cut holes

3. Therefore, a "scored" condom is destined to fail in its intended purpose

Uhhhh, Whinny, the word you wanted is "scoured" not "scored."

yeah, I make sure the girl is on the pill before I get with her. It feels better with out the glove. The Gov should start paying for my gloves.