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RE: B12 Divisions
(02-25-2012 05:23 PM)Old Dominion Navy Wrote:  
(02-25-2012 04:50 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  How would y'all align the B12 divisions if BYU and Louisville are entering in 13?

Mine looks a lil somethin like this:

Texas------Oklahoma
BYU--------TCU
Tech-------Baylor
Kansas-----Kansas St
Louisville---WVU
Iowa St----Oklahoma State

Its a nice clean zipper alignment that keeps almost all of the rivalries intact.

I would switch TCU and Tech. Baylor would be a better rivalry for TCU then BYU.

That's fair... I put TCU and BYU as rivals because they have some history even though its slight at best.

H1... switching WVU and Louisville makes sense.
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RE: B12 Divisions
No clue. I guess....
Texas -- Oklahoma
Baylor -- TCU
Kansas St -- Kansas
Texas Tech -- Iowa State
W Virginia -- Okie St
Louisville -- byu

I am sure Texas would have a fit with my set-up.
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RE: B12 Divisions
(02-25-2012 05:23 PM)Old Dominion Navy Wrote:  
(02-25-2012 04:50 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  How would y'all align the B12 divisions if BYU and Louisville are entering in 13?

Mine looks a lil somethin like this:

Texas------Oklahoma
BYU--------TCU
Tech-------Baylor
Kansas-----Kansas St
Louisville---WVU
Iowa St----Oklahoma State

Its a nice clean zipper alignment that keeps almost all of the rivalries intact.

I would switch TCU and Tech. Baylor would be a better rivalry for TCU then BYU.

Moving Tech to the other side makes their yearly match up with Texas a not so yearly match up. We have seen that Tech and Texas are tied at the hip. Texas may tell TCU what to do but they were willing to take Tech with them. I think you have to assume Tech and Texas will end up in the same division in order to preserve that match up that is not quite at premier rivalry but is still important to Texas.

Having TCU in the same division as Baylor maintains that rivalry while allowing Baylor to have an instate rival with Tech from the opposing division as well as allowing TCU and BYU to turn an old MWC match up into a B12 rivalry.

Basically the Texas/Texas Tech relationship keeps them in the same division.
02-25-2012 05:29 PM
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RE: B12 Divisions
(02-25-2012 05:29 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  
(02-25-2012 05:23 PM)Old Dominion Navy Wrote:  
(02-25-2012 04:50 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  How would y'all align the B12 divisions if BYU and Louisville are entering in 13?

Mine looks a lil somethin like this:

Texas------Oklahoma
BYU--------TCU
Tech-------Baylor
Kansas-----Kansas St
Louisville---WVU
Iowa St----Oklahoma State

Its a nice clean zipper alignment that keeps almost all of the rivalries intact.

I would switch TCU and Tech. Baylor would be a better rivalry for TCU then BYU.

Moving Tech to the other side makes their yearly match up with Texas a not so yearly match up. We have seen that Tech and Texas are tied at the hip. Texas may tell TCU what to do but they were willing to take Tech with them. I think you have to assume Tech and Texas will end up in the same division in order to preserve that match up that is not quite at premier rivalry but is still important to Texas.

Having TCU in the same division as Baylor maintains that rivalry while allowing Baylor to have an instate rival with Tech from the opposing division as well as allowing TCU and BYU to turn an old MWC match up into a B12 rivalry.

Basically the Texas/Texas Tech relationship keeps them in the same division.

I see what your saying, makes sense.
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RE: B12 Divisions
(02-25-2012 05:34 PM)Old Dominion Navy Wrote:  
(02-25-2012 05:29 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  
(02-25-2012 05:23 PM)Old Dominion Navy Wrote:  
(02-25-2012 04:50 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  How would y'all align the B12 divisions if BYU and Louisville are entering in 13?

Mine looks a lil somethin like this:

Texas------Oklahoma
BYU--------TCU
Tech-------Baylor
Kansas-----Kansas St
Louisville---WVU
Iowa St----Oklahoma State

Its a nice clean zipper alignment that keeps almost all of the rivalries intact.

I would switch TCU and Tech. Baylor would be a better rivalry for TCU then BYU.

Moving Tech to the other side makes their yearly match up with Texas a not so yearly match up. We have seen that Tech and Texas are tied at the hip. Texas may tell TCU what to do but they were willing to take Tech with them. I think you have to assume Tech and Texas will end up in the same division in order to preserve that match up that is not quite at premier rivalry but is still important to Texas.

Having TCU in the same division as Baylor maintains that rivalry while allowing Baylor to have an instate rival with Tech from the opposing division as well as allowing TCU and BYU to turn an old MWC match up into a B12 rivalry.

Basically the Texas/Texas Tech relationship keeps them in the same division.

I see what your saying, makes sense.

Yea... that's partly the reason why I kept Tech with Texas and OSU with Oklahoma. And then I felt that BYU made far more sense in Texas's division than Oklahoma's. Then I felt that Baylor and Tech made sense as set rivals. Everything else just fell into place.
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It also has the secondary effect of keeping TCU as the new guy, giving them the least amount of in state Texas games on a yearly basis. "Sure, you are more than welcome in the Big 12 but you will play less games in state then the Texas Trio".

It just seems very Texas like to me.
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I know its fun to speculate on the new divisions but it will be split North and South again if we go back to 12.

The south setup was just too beneficial to both the Oklahoma schools and the Texas schools, and they will make sure they are all still in the South together or they will veto any move back to 12.
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(02-25-2012 06:01 PM)jeffUThorns Wrote:  I know its fun to speculate on the new divisions but it will be split North and South again if we go back to 12.

The south setup was just too beneficial to both the Oklahoma schools and the Texas schools, and they will make sure they are all still in the South together or they will veto any move back to 12.

It was beneficial for Texas and its SouthWest Conference companions to take over the Big 8. Now that they have total control they do not need that same set up. What Texas needs is to maximize their scheduling potential to get the best finish possible as well as national recognition for dollars.

The Big 12 is much different now. The Big 8 is demolished, Texas split it up. No more need to keep Oklahoma and Okie state divided from the rest. In fact what reason does Texas have to maintain a game against Oklahoma State? Oklahoma State is rising as a program and that threatens Texas. Giving them full access to Texas is not in Texas's best interests.

The South set up was beneficial in dividing the old Big 8.
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its going to be north south for sure
02-25-2012 06:10 PM
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RE: B12 Divisions
(02-25-2012 06:06 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  
(02-25-2012 06:01 PM)jeffUThorns Wrote:  I know its fun to speculate on the new divisions but it will be split North and South again if we go back to 12.

The south setup was just too beneficial to both the Oklahoma schools and the Texas schools, and they will make sure they are all still in the South together or they will veto any move back to 12.

It was beneficial for Texas and its SouthWest Conference companions to take over the Big 8. Now that they have total control they do not need that same set up. What Texas needs is to maximize their scheduling potential to get the best finish possible as well as national recognition for dollars.

The Big 12 is much different now. The Big 8 is demolished, Texas split it up. No more need to keep Oklahoma and Okie state divided from the rest. In fact what reason does Texas have to maintain a game against Oklahoma State? Oklahoma State is rising as a program and that threatens Texas. Giving them full access to Texas is not in Texas's best interests.

The South set up was beneficial in dividing the old Big 8.

Texas makes more money than any other athletic program has ever made in the history of college athletics. Texas does not need more national recognition or money.

Also, Texas would rather play Oklahoma State every year than a Kansas, K state or the likes of Louisville.

Texas and OU will never diminish the game at the State Fair with the chance of a rematch in the Conference Title game.

It is simply not going to happen.
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