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RE: B12 Divisions
It's Texas' world folks. We're just living in it.
02-25-2012 06:29 PM
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RE: B12 Divisions
(02-25-2012 06:16 PM)jeffUThorns Wrote:  
(02-25-2012 06:06 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  
(02-25-2012 06:01 PM)jeffUThorns Wrote:  I know its fun to speculate on the new divisions but it will be split North and South again if we go back to 12.

The south setup was just too beneficial to both the Oklahoma schools and the Texas schools, and they will make sure they are all still in the South together or they will veto any move back to 12.

It was beneficial for Texas and its SouthWest Conference companions to take over the Big 8. Now that they have total control they do not need that same set up. What Texas needs is to maximize their scheduling potential to get the best finish possible as well as national recognition for dollars.

The Big 12 is much different now. The Big 8 is demolished, Texas split it up. No more need to keep Oklahoma and Okie state divided from the rest. In fact what reason does Texas have to maintain a game against Oklahoma State? Oklahoma State is rising as a program and that threatens Texas. Giving them full access to Texas is not in Texas's best interests.

The South set up was beneficial in dividing the old Big 8.

Texas makes more money than any other athletic program has ever made in the history of college athletics. Texas does not need more national recognition or money.

Also, Texas would rather play Oklahoma State every year than a Kansas, K state or the likes of Louisville.

Texas and OU will never diminish the game at the State Fair with the chance of a rematch in the Conference Title game.

It is simply not going to happen.

I guess I will have to differ to your judgement on this, assuming you are much more familiar with the culture.

So you think it would be beneficial for the Big 12 as a whole to be divided as such?

South
Texas
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
Texas Tech
TCU
Baylor

North
Kansas
Kansas State
Iowa State
West Virginia
Louisville
BYU
02-25-2012 06:31 PM
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To be all honest here the Texas - Oklahoma games is not all that HUGE of a game IMO that it would take away from a second game if one came about in a CCG. Yes I understand the Red River Rivalry game and what it means to Texas and Oklahoma, but it would not tarnish a second game what so ever. The BigTen has it worked out for Michigan and Ohio State if I am not mistaken so they can play every year, and if they happen to match up in a championship game then so be for it is twice the fun for the BigTen which is something the Big12 should realize that and have that determined in the TV deal if a matchup would happen. That game IMO would be bigger than the season matchup one, and one that should bring more money. If these so-called teams don't want a game with Louisville then they should be looking for another school than us, but since they are looking at us I take they will play us when ever and where ever the schedule dictates.
02-25-2012 06:35 PM
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You can still easily split the divisions into a semi East / West arrangement thout separating TU and OU.

West: BYU, KSU, KU, TU, OU, OSU
East: WVU, UL, ISU, Baylor, TCU, Tex Tech

That seems like the best way to preserve all the rivalries and balance the strength of the football programs to me.
02-25-2012 06:43 PM
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You won't see Texas, OU and OSU in the same division.
02-25-2012 06:46 PM
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I actually agree that it should be split up for competitive balance, I just don't see that actually happening.

Trust me when I say Texas and OU could care less what the Big 10 does and how they split OSU and Michigan up.

They do not want to be split up, and the rest of the South will also want to stick together.

Its unfortunate but thats just what I hear and how I think it will go down if we go back to 12.

I could end up being wrong though, its happened before.
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(02-25-2012 06:46 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  You won't see Texas, OU and OSU in the same division.

Why not? They were in the same division for years.
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Also I think if a so-called North South set comes about then the only thing I would hope the conference could foresee is that BYU would be a better fit with the Texas and Oklahoma schools than to be placed in a conference division with schools from West Virginia and Kentucky. Also IMHO I think TCU can live without the UT connection since they have been doing itbasically since the breakup of the old SouthWest Conference. They can be placed with Louisville who they have somewhat a rivalry with from their CUSA days and it gives the north division a guaranteed connection to Texas for recuiting purposes for those who need it in Kansas, KSU, and Iowa State.
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02-25-2012 06:55 PM
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I think you will see it happen just like orangecrush laid it out.
02-25-2012 06:58 PM
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(02-25-2012 06:43 PM)NoQuarter08 Wrote:  You can still easily split the divisions into a semi East / West arrangement thout separating TU and OU.

West: BYU, KSU, KU, TU, OU, OSU
East: WVU, UL, ISU, Baylor, TCU, Tex Tech

That seems like the best way to preserve all the rivalries and balance the strength of the football programs to me.

No way will Texas be in a division without another texas team.
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