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RE: Rivals: BYU in serious talks w/ B12; to join w/ Cards for 2013?
(02-24-2012 09:41 AM)brista21 Wrote:  
(02-24-2012 08:37 AM)cuseroc Wrote:  
(02-24-2012 08:25 AM)brista21 Wrote:  
(02-24-2012 07:53 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  
(02-24-2012 01:22 AM)TigeRMaNiAc Wrote:  On Wednesday, the 80-year-old Neinas announced that he will be step aside effective the end of June with the anticipation that a new commissioner will be in place by no later than July 1. Leading candidates for the job reportedly include current Conference USA commissioner Britton Banowsky, NCAA interim executive VP of championships Greg Shaheen, West Virginia athletic director Oliver Luck and Notre Dame athletic director Jack Swarbrick.

I'm not posting this in doubt. I am just wandering what Louisville fans think of the possibility of Banowsky taking over?

Might make it easier to bring in UC, USF,Memphis along with us
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If the BYU negotiation falls apart or they want to go bigger than 12 look for Cincy and Rutgers to be next in line. Not necessarily in that order. Rutgers has friends in WVU and don't let the series talks breakdown fool you but Oklahoma as well. David Boren has mentioned us before and our ADs have a strong relationship.

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I see Rutgers future in the Acc first, the Big 10 second. I just cant picture Rutgers in the Big 12. Might as well stay in the BE until the acc or Big 10 come calling.

I personally think we're going nowhere. The ACC is never calling to reunite us with Cuse, Pitt and BC. The Big Ten definitely isn't calling. The Big 12 is actually the most realistic to call but the weirdest fit.

it's the weirdest fit BUT it just may be the best; I know a lot of WVU fans want the Big 12 to invite Rutgers over pretty much any school except for Clemson and Florida State

WVU draws a lot of students from that part of the country and has a lot of alumni up there as well

I'm betting that other Big 12 schools have alumni in that area as well.

Personally, I don't want BYU. Makes no sense for the Big 12 to expand westward right now.
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RE: Rivals: BYU in serious talks w/ B12; to join w/ Cards for 2013?
(02-24-2012 02:39 PM)Wedge Wrote:  
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(02-24-2012 09:05 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  From the article:

It's unlikely that we will see any official announcement regarding expansion of the Big 12 until the conference decides on a new commissioner. League presidents fired former commissioner Dan Bebee in September of last year and replaced him with Chuck Neinas on an interim basis.

On Wednesday, the 80-year-old Neinas announced that he will be step aside effective the end of June with the anticipation that a new commissioner will be in place by no later than July 1. Leading candidates for the job reportedly include current Conference USA commissioner Britton Banowsky, NCAA interim executive VP of championships Greg Shaheen, West Virginia athletic director Oliver Luck and Notre Dame athletic director Jack Swarbrick.


Would be funny if Oliver Luck bolted WVU so he could move back to TX as Big 12 Commish...as then rumors would fly he pushed WVU to the Big 12 just to get the Commish job.

Doubt it happens...but it would certainly be a fun "what if?"
It just might be Notre Dame AD Jack Swarbrick who gets the job, who knows?

He was the runner up to Dan Beebe for the job last time and he is very tight with Deloss Dodds.....
IMO it'll be either Shaheen or Swarbrick...
The only way I could see Swarbrick taking that job is if important people at Notre Dame don't want him to stay there.
I could see Swarbrick taking the job for more money, Wedge...
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RE: Rivals: BYU in serious talks w/ B12; to join w/ Cards for 2013?
Back to the OP.....just thinking out loud....if UofL is going to make the move....say for 2013.....it sure would be a lot cheaper to announce before the end of March. If you wait till after July.....that pushes you into a new academic year.

For UofL to get out for 2013.....they would have to pay the $10 million plus whatever would have to be negotiated to leave prior to the end of the 2015 season. 27 months from July 2012 pushes you to October 2014.....which means under that scenario Louisville would be on the hook through July 1st, 2015.

Another thought....unless the B12 is going to go ahead and renegotiate the Fox deal.....I am not so sure the B12 would want BYU or Louisville prior to 2015.
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RE: Rivals: BYU in serious talks w/ B12; to join w/ Cards for 2013?
(02-24-2012 03:27 PM)The Brown Bull Wrote:  Back to the OP.....just thinking out loud....if UofL is going to make the move....say for 2013.....it sure would be a lot cheaper to announce before the end of March. If you wait till after July.....that pushes you into a new academic year.

For UofL to get out for 2013.....they would have to pay the $10 million plus whatever would have to be negotiated to leave prior to the end of the 2015 season. 27 months from July 2012 pushes you to October 2014.....which means under that scenario Louisville would be on the hook through July 1st, 2015.

Another thought....unless the B12 is going to go ahead and renegotiate the Fox deal.....I am not so sure the B12 would want BYU or Louisville prior to 2015.
I agree about the announcement date. That struck me, too. I'm sure UL would likely buy out early, but no sense in making it harder, if it can be avoided. Also, if UL and/or BYU goes in, I'm pretty sure they can renegotiate, and I think that would have been discussed beforehand.
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RE: Rivals: BYU in serious talks w/ B12; to join w/ Cards for 2013?
(02-24-2012 02:39 PM)Wedge Wrote:  
(02-24-2012 02:29 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  
(02-24-2012 09:17 AM)TerryD Wrote:  
(02-24-2012 09:05 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  From the article:

It's unlikely that we will see any official announcement regarding expansion of the Big 12 until the conference decides on a new commissioner. League presidents fired former commissioner Dan Bebee in September of last year and replaced him with Chuck Neinas on an interim basis.

On Wednesday, the 80-year-old Neinas announced that he will be step aside effective the end of June with the anticipation that a new commissioner will be in place by no later than July 1. Leading candidates for the job reportedly include current Conference USA commissioner Britton Banowsky, NCAA interim executive VP of championships Greg Shaheen, West Virginia athletic director Oliver Luck and Notre Dame athletic director Jack Swarbrick.


Would be funny if Oliver Luck bolted WVU so he could move back to TX as Big 12 Commish...as then rumors would fly he pushed WVU to the Big 12 just to get the Commish job.

Doubt it happens...but it would certainly be a fun "what if?"
It just might be Notre Dame AD Jack Swarbrick who gets the job, who knows?

He was the runner up to Dan Beebe for the job last time and he is very tight with Deloss Dodds.....
IMO it'll be either Shaheen or Swarbrick...

The only way I could see Swarbrick taking that job is if important people at Notre Dame don't want him to stay there.

It is called "The exporting of Notre Dame influence into positions of influence within the BCS and NCAA"

To me Notre Dame gains more by Swarbrick taking that job then they do by hoarding him at Notre Dame.
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RE: Rivals: BYU in serious talks w/ B12; to join w/ Cards for 2013?
(02-24-2012 03:27 PM)The Brown Bull Wrote:  Back to the OP.....just thinking out loud....if UofL is going to make the move....say for 2013.....it sure would be a lot cheaper to announce before the end of March. If you wait till after July.....that pushes you into a new academic year.

For UofL to get out for 2013.....they would have to pay the $10 million plus whatever would have to be negotiated to leave prior to the end of the 2015 season. 27 months from July 2012 pushes you to October 2014.....which means under that scenario Louisville would be on the hook through July 1st, 2015.

Another thought....unless the B12 is going to go ahead and renegotiate the Fox deal.....I am not so sure the B12 would want BYU or Louisville prior to 2015.
And the Big XII can't likely renegotiate the TV deal until after it expires (2015, IIRC). The deal was written for 12 teams and they successfully got the TV partners to keep the same overall payout with only 10 teams. So unless the 10 teams in the Big XII are willing to share the pot 12 ways instead of 10, nobody's coming in until they can renegotiate. They could argue about going to 14 or 16 to get more TV money sooner than later, but I don't think they're willing to do that, seeing how little the bump the ACC got for adding Syracuse and Pitt.

Now, if they ask Louisville after the new commish arrives in July to leave for 2015, that makes sense if they are only going to 12.
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RE: Rivals: BYU in serious talks w/ B12; to join w/ Cards for 2013?
I can't imagine being excited about joining a conference with Bevo and the Sooner Schooner. Nebraska, Colorado, Missouri, and A&M left for a reason. Texas is toxic.

If you see people running from a burning house, who in their right mind would want inside?
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(02-24-2012 11:26 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  I can't imagine being excited about joining a conference with Bevo and the Sooner Schooner. Nebraska, Colorado, Missouri, and A&M left for a reason. Texas is toxic.

If you see people running from a burning house, who in their right mind would want inside?



Kind of like Virginia Tech, Miami, Boston College, West Virginia, Pitt, and Syracuse?
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RE: Rivals: BYU in serious talks w/ B12; to join w/ Cards for 2013?
(02-24-2012 03:27 PM)The Brown Bull Wrote:  Back to the OP.....just thinking out loud....if UofL is going to make the move....say for 2013.....it sure would be a lot cheaper to announce before the end of March. If you wait till after July.....that pushes you into a new academic year.

For UofL to get out for 2013.....they would have to pay the $10 million plus whatever would have to be negotiated to leave prior to the end of the 2015 season. 27 months from July 2012 pushes you to October 2014.....which means under that scenario Louisville would be on the hook through July 1st, 2015.

Another thought....unless the B12 is going to go ahead and renegotiate the Fox deal.....I am not so sure the B12 would want BYU or Louisville prior to 2015.
I agree with this. I'll be completely astonished if Louisville goes to the Big 12 before 2015.
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RE: Rivals: BYU in serious talks w/ B12; to join w/ Cards for 2013?
(02-24-2012 01:35 AM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  
(02-24-2012 01:27 AM)Boise fan Wrote:  BYU has 6 games scheduled already for 2013, and 5 for 2014, 2015. They would have to drop a lot of games and pay penalties if this were true. As it is, I'm betting BYU won't come to terms with the B12 anytime soon.

That's been their M.O. for awhile now...

Great point. At the same time they could push some of these games back as well.
Wouldn't you guys say you're being awfully selective here on just pointing out that BYU has a lot of future games to get out of if they want to move into the Big 12. Here is Pitt, Cincy, Rutgers, Clemson, SMU and Air Force....


http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa/big-east...nthers.php

http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa/big-east...arcats.php

http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa/big-east...nights.php

http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa/acc/clemson-tigers.php

http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa/conf-usa...stangs.php

http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa/mtn-west...alcons.php

I tend to think these schools have quiet a bit of reshuffling and paying out if/when they switch conferences. I don't see it fair to just point out BYU as the only 1 that needs to did out of a hole.
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