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RE: Can Obama overcome his inept energy policy?
(02-21-2012 09:35 AM)ImMoreAwesomeThanYou Wrote:  
(02-20-2012 05:02 PM)BleedsHuskieRed Wrote:  
(02-20-2012 03:45 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  
(02-20-2012 11:29 AM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  Wouldn't a sign of his energy policy be energy production that we actually control? Aren't your points more to do with his Foreign Policy?

Energy policy

No NEW offshore oil exploration since BP accident
No to the Keystone Pipeline
No New Coal fired electric plants
Closure of 32 coal fired plants

A proactive energy policy would counter the Foreign Policy problems.

US Energy policy should be

Drill Here Drill NOW
Yes to Keystone Pipeline
Clean Coal electric plants
No closure of existing electric plants until replacement capacity is on line.
Don't forget opening dozens of new nuke plants. That is key.

How many nuclear power plants have came online in the past 5 years?

None.. its been 30+ years since construction on a new reactor began, that's why this issue is a win for Obama. Its finally happening again, under his administration, even if you believe he had nothing to do with it, it'd be extremely easy to spin it that he did. This is why I said this issue of energy policy isn't as obvious a GOP win as some might think.
02-21-2012 02:02 PM
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RE: Can Obama overcome his inept energy policy?
(02-21-2012 02:02 PM)HuskieFan84 Wrote:  
(02-21-2012 09:35 AM)ImMoreAwesomeThanYou Wrote:  
(02-20-2012 05:02 PM)BleedsHuskieRed Wrote:  
(02-20-2012 03:45 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  
(02-20-2012 11:29 AM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  Wouldn't a sign of his energy policy be energy production that we actually control? Aren't your points more to do with his Foreign Policy?

Energy policy

No NEW offshore oil exploration since BP accident
No to the Keystone Pipeline
No New Coal fired electric plants
Closure of 32 coal fired plants

A proactive energy policy would counter the Foreign Policy problems.

US Energy policy should be

Drill Here Drill NOW
Yes to Keystone Pipeline
Clean Coal electric plants
No closure of existing electric plants until replacement capacity is on line.
Don't forget opening dozens of new nuke plants. That is key.

How many nuclear power plants have came online in the past 5 years?

None.. its been 30+ years since construction on a new reactor began, that's why this issue is a win for Obama. Its finally happening again, under his administration, even if you believe he had nothing to do with it, it'd be extremely easy to spin it that he did. This is why I said this issue of energy policy isn't as obvious a GOP win as some might think.

I know. That was my point. Nothing Obama has done has led this nation toward energy independence.
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RE: Can Obama overcome his inept energy policy?
What?

Obama promotes nuclear energy.. even coming out and saying he still does after what happened in Japan. For the first time in 3 decades ground has been broken on new plants under his administration. You seem to be missing the point. It had been 30 years, until Obama took office, ground has been broken under this administration's term.

You can certainly argue Obama shouldn't get credit for it if you want, but in a 30 second commercial, going to be damn easy for him to spin it that he did help.
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RE: Can Obama overcome his inept energy policy?
(02-21-2012 02:05 PM)ImMoreAwesomeThanYou Wrote:  
(02-21-2012 02:02 PM)HuskieFan84 Wrote:  
(02-21-2012 09:35 AM)ImMoreAwesomeThanYou Wrote:  
(02-20-2012 05:02 PM)BleedsHuskieRed Wrote:  
(02-20-2012 03:45 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  Energy policy

No NEW offshore oil exploration since BP accident
No to the Keystone Pipeline
No New Coal fired electric plants
Closure of 32 coal fired plants

A proactive energy policy would counter the Foreign Policy problems.

US Energy policy should be

Drill Here Drill NOW
Yes to Keystone Pipeline
Clean Coal electric plants
No closure of existing electric plants until replacement capacity is on line.
Don't forget opening dozens of new nuke plants. That is key.

How many nuclear power plants have came online in the past 5 years?

None.. its been 30+ years since construction on a new reactor began, that's why this issue is a win for Obama. Its finally happening again, under his administration, even if you believe he had nothing to do with it, it'd be extremely easy to spin it that he did. This is why I said this issue of energy policy isn't as obvious a GOP win as some might think.

I know. That was my point. Nothing Obama has done has led this nation toward energy independence.
So Obama had nothing to do with getting the government loan to the company in Georgia building the reactor?
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RE: Can Obama overcome his inept energy policy?
So the left is against nuclear... till they can take credit for it?
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(02-21-2012 08:04 PM)Paul M Wrote:  So the left is against nuclear... till they can take credit for it?


Obama has always been for it. Again, I'm really not sure if you guys are just uninformed, or what.. but this is not a good issue for the GOP to go after, Obama just isn't going to come out of it badly. The GOP has had plenty of chances over the last 30 years to make a move, and it didn't happen until Obama, a lefty, socialist, kenyan, muslim, communist who happens to also be pro-nuclear power was in office.

And where'd you go IMATY? Realized how blatantly wrong you were? That's gotta be a bit embarrassing, perhaps you'll read the full post before highlighting the first line of it next time.

From the Wall Street Journal.. run by Murdoch.. not exactly an Obama defender.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424...00488.html
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I didn't say Obama.
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(02-21-2012 08:12 PM)Paul M Wrote:  I didn't say Obama.

Well the discussion revolves around Obama. The thread is about Obama, the comments made by me and IMATY were about Obama. My comment was about how Obama would be able to spin it in his favor / take credit. So it would have seemed to make sense that you were referring to Obama.

That being said, it's not like there wasn't a Democratic Congress around at the time they set money aside for the loans in 2009-10. So even if you didn't mean to include Obama in the discussion, you still seem to miss the mark with your comment.
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Interesting that the White House said today that there's not much the president can do about the price of gas.

Hmmm...the narrative 4 years ago was that Bush pretty much single-handedly ramped it up.

Second, I guess he meant besides, ANWR. the gulf and the Keystone pipeline.
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One thing Obama refuses to consider: Tax incentives for hydrogenation of natural gas with the end product being methanol. You mix the methanol with ethanol from corn or sugar cane and you have a perfect fuel for "Flex Fuel" vehicles.
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