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RE: Stanton in the Press
(01-09-2012 10:34 PM)BuccTiger Wrote:  
(01-09-2012 08:54 PM)bucfan81 Wrote:  
(01-09-2012 04:25 PM)Buc66 Wrote:  
(01-09-2012 01:10 PM)slappywhite Wrote:  
(01-09-2012 12:34 PM)Buc66 Wrote:  Dear Dr. Stanton,
Since you have reintroduced your reason for eliminating football in 2003 in the recent Johnson City Press interview, I respectfully request that you issue additional financial information regarding your strategic business decision then and how that has played out these past eight years. You state that $500,000.00 was coming from both academics and the Pirate Club to cover football expenses in 2003, thus the program was losing $1 million annually. The JC Press reported at the time that the annual athletic budget for ETSU in 2003-04 was some $6.7 million. The USA Today college athletics finance database shows that ETSU's athletic budget was around $7.2 million in 2004-05. So, instead of decreasing athletic spending by the $1 million football was losing, you actually increased athletic spending by $500,000.00 this next year after football. And, according to USA Today, this increase in total athletic spending has been on a steady upward trajectory ever since, reaching some $11 million annually today. The 2009-10 data for ETSU, the most recent available, shows that over $4.1 million of the athletic budget came from direct state or other government support. Another $1.5 million came from indirect facilities and administrative support. It would be very helpful if you would explain these budget categories and how they are monies that are not available to academics. In addition, these funds coupled with student athletic fees made up over 77% of ETSU"s athletic budget in 2004-05. And, with reference to your assessment regarding football that it just wasn't working, it would also be helpful if you would distinguish the difference between losing and subsidizing when speaking of intercollegiate athletic budgets and spending.

Of course, if this USA Today data is inaccurate, you could point out their inaccuracies, thus eliminating a significant distraction to your explanation of your decision to eliminate football in 2003.

Sincerely,
ETSU Alumnae

great letter with lots of numbers...even if it is irrelevant to the current situation and will have absolutely no bearing on reinstating football to etsu.

Irrelevant to the current situation? And what exactly is that current situation, Slappy? They're spending $11 million today without football - which is a 64% increase since football was dropped? Irrelevant? There's nothing more relevant than a look at ETSU athletic spending since the end of football and where that spending is TODAY. It's the exact starting point to any effort to reinstate football in order to determine the fund raising needed to supplement the already existing athletic revenue. Real simple accounting and basic 101 budget planning. But again, perhaps Stanton, you, or Mullins can refute these USA Today numbers to show their irrelevance to the reinstatement of ETSU football. Prove that money is now not being lifted from the general university budget, money that could be going to academics, to supplement athletics since we no longer have football. If you will, then you'll have your wish with me - I'll forever shut up about the return of ETSU football and declare Dr. Stanton a hero.

To this day I have not had it explained to me how a "financially strapped" school like ETSU obtained money to start an NCAA Division One soccer program from scratch? Something we did not ask for. Something we did not want but the leaders found plenty of money somewhere to start the program. I wonder where that money came from? We will never get an answer to that.

Don't know anything about soccer, so this is a guess.

* One of those big vans to transport the team.
* T-shirt, shorts, cleats for each player, do they even need jocks?
* Grass field

Comparing the costs of football to soccer, is crazy. One of the reasons it is the worlds most poplar sport is it doesn't cost much to play.
Sadly we have one of the few programs with scholarship soccer, meaning it DOES cost much to play. It also cost much when you build a stadium and practice fields for it.

Comparing the cost of football to soccer is in fact NOT crazy. One has the ability to improve the other athletic programs and the University as a whole, the other does not.

That of course is a cost comparison that few want to talk about.
01-09-2012 11:52 PM
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Stanton in the Press - abuc90 - 01-08-2012, 10:14 PM
RE: Stanton in the Press - slappywhite - 01-08-2012, 10:55 PM
RE: Stanton in the Press - BuccTiger - 01-09-2012, 03:32 AM
RE: Stanton in the Press - slappywhite - 01-09-2012, 08:55 AM
RE: Stanton in the Press - bucfan81 - 01-09-2012, 09:23 AM
RE: Stanton in the Press - BuccTiger - 01-09-2012, 10:45 PM
RE: Stanton in the Press - slappywhite - 01-09-2012, 09:36 AM
RE: Stanton in the Press - Buccaneerlover - 01-09-2012, 11:02 AM
RE: Stanton in the Press - slappywhite - 01-09-2012, 11:36 AM
RE: Stanton in the Press - Buccaneerlover - 01-09-2012, 02:09 PM
RE: Stanton in the Press - slappywhite - 01-09-2012, 02:49 PM
RE: Stanton in the Press - Buccaneerlover - 01-09-2012, 04:41 PM
RE: Stanton in the Press - slappywhite - 01-09-2012, 10:46 PM
RE: Stanton in the Press - BuccTiger - 01-09-2012, 10:48 PM
RE: Stanton in the Press - bucfan81 - 01-09-2012, 12:12 PM
RE: Stanton in the Press - Buc66 - 01-09-2012, 12:34 PM
RE: Stanton in the Press - slappywhite - 01-09-2012, 01:10 PM
RE: Stanton in the Press - Buc66 - 01-09-2012, 04:25 PM
RE: Stanton in the Press - bucfan81 - 01-09-2012, 08:54 PM
RE: Stanton in the Press - BuccTiger - 01-09-2012, 10:34 PM
RE: Stanton in the Press - BucNut22 - 01-09-2012 11:52 PM
RE: Stanton in the Press - BuccTiger - 01-10-2012, 12:22 AM
RE: Stanton in the Press - BucNut22 - 01-10-2012, 12:45 AM
RE: Stanton in the Press - BuccTiger - 01-10-2012, 12:56 AM
RE: Stanton in the Press - slappywhite - 01-10-2012, 08:46 AM
RE: Stanton in the Press - slappywhite - 01-09-2012, 10:51 PM
RE: Stanton in the Press - slappywhite - 01-09-2012, 11:13 PM
RE: Stanton in the Press - Buc66 - 01-10-2012, 08:07 AM
RE: Stanton in the Press - slappywhite - 01-10-2012, 10:25 AM
RE: Stanton in the Press - RodShaw2 - 01-10-2012, 10:39 AM
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RE: Stanton in the Press - Buc66 - 01-10-2012, 06:52 PM
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RE: Stanton in the Press - bucfan81 - 01-10-2012, 11:30 AM
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RE: Stanton in the Press - TheShadow - 01-10-2012, 11:58 AM
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RE: Stanton in the Press - abuc90 - 01-10-2012, 12:40 PM
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RE: Stanton in the Press - Buc66 - 01-11-2012, 06:59 PM
RE: Stanton in the Press - BuccTiger - 01-12-2012, 12:54 AM
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RE: Stanton in the Press - slappywhite - 01-12-2012, 08:27 AM
RE: Stanton in the Press - Buc66 - 01-12-2012, 10:06 AM
RE: Stanton in the Press - Buccaneerlover - 01-12-2012, 10:58 AM
RE: Stanton in the Press - slappywhite - 01-12-2012, 11:07 AM
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RE: Stanton in the Press - bucfan81 - 01-12-2012, 11:56 AM
RE: Stanton in the Press - BuccTiger - 01-12-2012, 12:38 PM
RE: Stanton in the Press - Buc66 - 01-12-2012, 05:39 PM
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RE: Stanton in the Press - Buccaneerlover - 01-11-2012, 09:53 AM
RE: Stanton in the Press - BuccTiger - 01-12-2012, 12:47 AM
RE: Stanton in the Press - abuc90 - 01-11-2012, 10:29 PM
RE: Stanton in the Press - BuccTiger - 01-12-2012, 01:03 AM
RE: Stanton in the Press - slappywhite - 01-12-2012, 11:03 AM
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RE: Stanton in the Press - Buccaneerlover - 01-12-2012, 02:19 PM
RE: Stanton in the Press - BuccTiger - 01-12-2012, 10:23 PM
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