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(12-21-2011 07:42 PM)eager eagle Wrote:  
(12-21-2011 06:26 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  
(12-21-2011 12:15 PM)eager eagle Wrote:  There has been recent legislation that went into effect that designates La Tech, UNO and Louisiana as statewide universities. The rest are regional schools, it is a step in the right direction, but a long way to go.
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Can you give us a link? The president of the University of Louisiana System, Randy Moffett, said just LAST WEEK that "The addition of University of New Orleans compliments our eight REGIONAL comprehensive research universities truly making the UL System now nine universities strong". The main advantagae for UNO in joining the UL System is they will "no longer have to compete with a flagship school (LSU) that receives a disproportionate share of attention and resources" says the article.

ULL, La Tech, and UNO, according to the system president, are REGIONAL comprehensive research institutions as members of the University of Louisiana System.
http://regents.louisiana.gov/assets/docs...200912.pdf

This will go into effect for the 2012 FY, so here is your link. Please refer to the bottom of the first page for the breakdown of all universities.
Flagship: LSU
Statewide: Louisiana, La Tech and UNO
Regional: Grambling, ULM, SLU, Nichols, NWST, SUNO, Southern, LSU-A, LSU-S

By the way, I know it will never happen, but for the sake of higher ed in Louisiana their should only be 4 public universities in the state and the rest should be JUCO's.
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First, I was responding to the comment that "there has been recent legislation that designates UNO, ULL, La Tech to be statewide universities" and asked for a link. Your response DOES not refer to any LEGISLATION, only some guidelines drawn up by the Board of Regentsl who CANNOT legislate. I would still like to see the link and if there is in fact one that does that then man I stand corrected and will apologize.

Secondly that criteria was obviously drawn up prior to beginning of the 2009-2010 school year, two years ago. UNO has now been brought into the system and your President is referring to all of you now as regional comprehensive universities, no partiality drawn between any of the nine in the current system.


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Unless I am sadly mistaken, the BOR has been delegated legislative authority to govern ALL higher education in the State. One would logically conclude [a reach for you, I know] that a BOR designation is a de-facto legal status, so long as it does not conflict with other law. In this case, note that only the pukes are referred to as a 'Flagship University', thus conforming with the law as written.

I do realize that this is the Banana Republic of Louisiana; where an action by the BOR which was exactly consistant with similar actions it had taken in the previous 100 years, which had never been questioned, was overturned by a court because there was no law that said it could do it. Ergo, logic has little to do with law in our little corner of the world.
12-22-2011 11:38 AM
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I hope ee enjoys his new offense next season!!!

Bustle up!
12-23-2011 12:57 AM
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By the way, I know it will never happen, but for the sake of higher ed in Louisiana their should only be 4 public universities in the state and the rest should be JUCO's.


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First, I was responding to the comment that "there has been recent legislation that designates UNO, ULL, La Tech to be statewide universities" and asked for a link. Your response DOES not refer to any LEGISLATION, only some guidelines drawn up by the Board of Regentsl who CANNOT legislate. I would still like to see the link and if there is in fact one that does that then man I stand corrected and will apologize.

Secondly that criteria was obviously drawn up prior to beginning of the 2009-2010 school year, two years ago. UNO has now been brought into the system and your President is referring to all of you now as regional comprehensive universities, no partiality drawn between any of the nine in the current system.


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Unless I am sadly mistaken, the BOR has been delegated legislative authority to govern ALL higher education in the State. One would logically conclude [a reach for you, I know] that a BOR designation is a de-facto legal status, so long as it does not conflict with other law. In this case, note that only the pukes are referred to as a 'Flagship University', thus conforming with the law as written.

I do realize that this is the Banana Republic of Louisiana; where an action by the BOR which was exactly consistant with similar actions it had taken in the previous 100 years, which had never been questioned, was overturned by a court because there was no law that said it could do it. Ergo, logic has little to do with law in our little corner of the world.

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The state legislature established the Board of Regents and assigned them the responsibility for operating and supervising the universities. The BOR does not and cannot initiate a law, only a rule or guideline which they can change or delte even one minute after the agreement is made. Their decisions are not law.
12-26-2011 04:09 PM
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(12-23-2011 12:57 AM)AstroCajun Wrote:  I hope ee enjoys his new offense next season!!!

Bustle up!

I heard EE has to change his panties everytime there is a UL or Louisiana reference on this board? True or False?

Z
12-27-2011 08:09 AM
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(12-27-2011 08:09 AM)zeebart21 Wrote:  
(12-23-2011 12:57 AM)AstroCajun Wrote:  I hope ee enjoys his new offense next season!!!

Bustle up!

I heard EE has to change his panties everytime there is a UL or Louisiana reference on this board? True or False?

Z
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12-27-2011 09:38 AM
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(12-27-2011 09:38 AM)eager eagle Wrote:  
(12-27-2011 08:09 AM)zeebart21 Wrote:  
(12-23-2011 12:57 AM)AstroCajun Wrote:  I hope ee enjoys his new offense next season!!!

Bustle up!

I heard EE has to change his panties everytime there is a UL or Louisiana reference on this board? True or False?

Z

Get your lawyer and lets get it on!!
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12-27-2011 01:58 PM
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Z

Get your lawyer and lets get it on!!

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As far as I know nothing has happened that would justify a suit by anyone. FANS have called the University of Louisiana at Lafayette by the name of UL, Louisiana, the "U", etc. That isnt illegal. Youl, any fan of any school, and anyone else as members of the public can do that with no problem. The only events that could initiate action, probably by the Board of Regents, would be the administration or anyone acting in their official capacity using the University of Louisiana orally or in writing WITHOUT the city tag. You must remember there edicts and legislation that regulates what the school and its officials can do as compared to the public being able to refer to the school in any way they want.
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(12-27-2011 04:46 PM)eager eagle Wrote:  Z

Get your lawyer and lets get it on!!
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As far as I know nothing has happened that would justify a suit by anyone. FANS have called the University of Louisiana at Lafayette by the name of UL, Louisiana, the "U", etc. That isnt illegal. Youl, any fan of any school, and anyone else as members of the public can do that with no problem. The only events that could initiate action, probably by the Board of Regents, would be the administration or anyone acting in their official capacity using the University of Louisiana orally or in writing WITHOUT the city tag. You must remember there edicts and legislation that regulates what the school and its officials can do as compared to the public being able to refer to the school in any way they want.



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HAHA!! I figured your one positive rep would come from Louisiana Hoax Fan!! HAHA!! Start wearing depends, Sweety. 2012 will be awesome for UL.

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(12-26-2011 04:09 PM)eager eagle Wrote:  By the way, I know it will never happen, but for the sake of higher ed in Louisiana their should only be 4 public universities in the state and the rest should be JUCO's.
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First, I was responding to the comment that "there has been recent legislation that designates UNO, ULL, La Tech to be statewide universities" and asked for a link. Your response DOES not refer to any LEGISLATION, only some guidelines drawn up by the Board of Regentsl who CANNOT legislate. I would still like to see the link and if there is in fact one that does that then man I stand corrected and will apologize.

Secondly that criteria was obviously drawn up prior to beginning of the 2009-2010 school year, two years ago. UNO has now been brought into the system and your President is referring to all of you now as regional comprehensive universities, no partiality drawn between any of the nine in the current system.


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Unless I am sadly mistaken, the BOR has been delegated legislative authority to govern ALL higher education in the State. One would logically conclude [a reach for you, I know] that a BOR designation is a de-facto legal status, so long as it does not conflict with other law. In this case, note that only the pukes are referred to as a 'Flagship University', thus conforming with the law as written.

I do realize that this is the Banana Republic of Louisiana; where an action by the BOR which was exactly consistant with similar actions it had taken in the previous 100 years, which had never been questioned, was overturned by a court because there was no law that said it could do it. Ergo, logic has little to do with law in our little corner of the world.

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The state legislature established the Board of Regents and assigned them the responsibility for operating and supervising the universities. The BOR does not and cannot initiate a law, only a rule or guideline which they can change or delte even one minute after the agreement is made. Their decisions are not law.


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While I agree that their decisions are not 'law', while in effect they have the force of law. If you don't believe that agency regulations have the force of law, try not filing a tax return.
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