(12-13-2011 12:11 AM)sdsucwsl Wrote:  ECU fans remind me of a psycho ex-girlfriend.

(12-12-2011 10:22 PM)brista21 Wrote:  Didn't read it all, but FWIW ECU should be in the Big East. But I've been saying that for a long time.

WOW now we are being attacked from San Diego a town I was raised in. Dad MCRD. Live on Cleveland St off of Washington Ave where the old Sears was. Please don't go there. You know nothing about ECU so don't jump to conclusions but I was raised a Padre, Charger fan ( they played there 1st Pro game at our stadium San Diego High, Lance Alworth & Speedy Duncan was our Rec coaches ) & AN AZTEC FAN. So please don't make me turn my back on you. From an ECU fan, I know both programs. I believe you will surprise a lot of people, in fact the next Miami because of the beach. What High School FB wouldn't want to go there if they thought they had a chance to play in the BcS. But you DO NOT deserve your AQ over ECU, you got lucky. ECU has done more with less than any school I know.

(12-13-2011 12:38 AM)Metacog Drivel Wrote:  So much injustice in the world of college football...I dunno what ECU's fixation is on attendance though, who cares? We all know attendance isn't driving the expansion bus.

Because you are lucky if you have a sell out & 20% of that sell out are free tickets!

First, 20% are not free tickets, but that doesn't really matter either way. Even if we got 10k-15k people to the stadium, it wouldn't matter. Have you seen SMU's attendance? Yeah, and they got an invite due to potential and market.

And so I reiterate myself, attendance isn't driving the expansion bus.

(12-13-2011 12:38 AM)Metacog Drivel Wrote:  So much injustice in the world of college football...I dunno what ECU's fixation is on attendance though, who cares? We all know attendance isn't driving the expansion bus.

They fixate on it since it is the thing they do best so they want it to be valued. Unfortunately it appears that all the leagues they desire or desired don't seem to care much about that. Still since that is their best attribute they hold on to the hope that it will be valued and continue to try to tear down anybody that doesn't show off that attribute even if that team acquires what they wanted. In having these teams taken they feel hurt and then angry since these teams were taken by attributes that they did not value.

(12-13-2011 12:38 AM)Metacog Drivel Wrote:  So much injustice in the world of college football...I dunno what ECU's fixation is on attendance though, who cares? We all know attendance isn't driving the expansion bus.

We obviously realize that attendance is of no consequence to the BE. The fact that it is not important is unbelievable to us quite frankly.

You see we understand what college football is all about, why it is special to people, we understand why college football drives the bus. College football is about passion and commitment, it's about your teams game being important in your life, its about meaning. It's about being despondant for a couple days when you lose, it's about thousands of people sitting in the parking lot calling the post game shows demanding coaches being fired after every loss.

See we get it, we understand why college football on Saturdays in the fall is the special. We get the tradition and the passion and the tailgate, we get being in the stadium 30 minutes before kickoff.

We understand college football is about all those things and more, not about two large market teams in half empty stadiums who are two time zones away from each other.

Attendance matters, it is the measure of a program and its commitment, if the fans don't care enough to show up on saturdays it is a direct reflection on its passion and commitment or lack thereof.

Va Tech gets it, WVa gets it, every top program in the country gets it, the BE administration however does not get it.

You see, ECU understands and values the things that make college football what it is and attendance is a tangible measure of that. What ECU doesn't understand is why the BE doesn't understand it or care. What we realize is that had the BE added a couple of passionate football first schools in 2003 they would have given those programs time to grow and been in a much different situation this go around yet they are making the same mistake all over again. We know that given BCS money and access we can be the kind of program that helps the BE and its football profile.

Actually, I believe most ECU fans are now off the BE bandwagon. The only real reason was the AQ tag. However,
We prefer a Southern Conference, not a Northern one.
We enjoy our association with Southern Miss, and now Marshall
CUSA has very good baseball, and the basketball is coming back.

If things work out, the AQ goes away, and the defectors will be the ones crying. Get rid of the glass ceiling AQ, and watch out for the potential of the CUSA teams.

TL;DR

Attendance is a pretty good indicator of a fanbase's passion for the school. It's also a pretty good indicator of how we draw in bowl games. But for the Big East football is more of a loss leader for basketball, the simplest way to drive up the TV money for the non-football schools. Fankly it's mind-blowing that football attendance doesn't matter to the Big East but we'll continue to pave our own way. Like another poster said I'd much rather be in a southern conference. The Big East would've been nothing more than a pass thru league like it has been for many.

What I haven't understood through the whole process, is what I can consider a warped sense of thinking by "football fans" when it comes to whether their schools are getting a mega TV contract or not. I've said before that unless you're an administrator or coach at one of these universities, none of this additional revenue is going in your pockets.

I do understand that it opens doors to be able to pay for better coaches and facilities, but bottom line is NONE OF US see any of this money in our pockets.

The only thing I care about when it comes to realignment is ECU's ability to do three things.

1. Play and win against a good quality schedule. This makes for exciting games and attendance will stay where it is now or rise. These regional games against the likes of SEC and ACC schools are fun to watch and lead to..........
2. Easy travel for fans. I wouldn't want to pay for a ticket, a plane ride and hotel to go see ECU play on the other side of the country. Some of do have to live on a budget. Regional games give fans the ability to drive to away games to support their teams. The more the fans show up home and away (12th man) the better chance our team has of winning which leads to............
3. Bowl games. I'm personally tired of the lower rated conferences getting sh*t bowls. IMO it's a travesty that Boise is going to the Humanitarian Bowl and not something better.

This was the only reason for me and very early in the process that the BE looked like the place to go. Not because my alma mater could make millions of dollars in the process, but it made it easier on the fans to support our teams.

(12-13-2011 07:46 AM)NoQuarter08 Wrote:  Attendance is a pretty good indicator of a fanbase's passion for the school. It's also a pretty good indicator of how we draw in bowl games. But for the Big East football is more of a loss leader for basketball, the simplest way to drive up the TV money for the non-football schools. Fankly it's mind-blowing that football attendance doesn't matter to the Big East but we'll continue to pave our own way. Like another poster said I'd much rather be in a southern conference. The Big East would've been nothing more than a pass thru league like it has been for many.

Attendance is a pretty good indicator of ECU fans not ever having anything important to do on a Saturday zing!