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RE: Kent State vs. Lehigh
(11-27-2010 08:40 PM)burden Wrote:  You can take them out of his average when he had a great game against the worst Division 1 team we played. The game was also somewhat out of character. Nothing else even close to 5/5 in other games. If he does it a few more times then I would count them all but until he does it again I would be hard pressed to assume he will shoot 41% for the season. Listen I hope he does stay at 41% but making it sound like he is head and shoulders above Holt just is not justified yet.

If you are going to take away his best performance of the season, just say he hasn't made any. 03-banghead
11-27-2010 09:24 PM
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(11-27-2010 09:24 PM)dannyb73 Wrote:  
(11-27-2010 08:40 PM)burden Wrote:  You can take them out of his average when he had a great game against the worst Division 1 team we played. The game was also somewhat out of character. Nothing else even close to 5/5 in other games. If he does it a few more times then I would count them all but until he does it again I would be hard pressed to assume he will shoot 41% for the season. Listen I hope he does stay at 41% but making it sound like he is head and shoulders above Holt just is not justified yet.

If you are going to take away his best performance of the season, just say he hasn't made any. 03-banghead

Well, then he basically hasn't.

Last year's team shot too many 3s. I hope this team knows it does not have any shooters and does not take many. Sherman's career does not suggest a great shooter. He can make the occasional open shot, but Kent State does not have a proven sharpshooter at the college level.
11-27-2010 10:15 PM
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In today's Canton Repository (the article is not online yet) Geno Ford states that McCollum could always "shoot and dribble", but that he was "thin" in high school, and has "matured" and "bulked up' since then. The article also points out that McCollum has also grown two inches since high school.
11-28-2010 10:51 AM
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(11-27-2010 07:40 PM)dannyb73 Wrote:  Also, you can't just "take away" his best game and re-average his 3pt shooting percentage. It doesn't work that way. He attempted and made those shots and is 41% on the year, which is very decent. That's like taking away someone's worst game and re-averaging them and saying they are better than they really are.

It's common practice in any statisitcal analysis to remove any outliers and look at the numbers with out them. I am alittle confused though, I thought you guys were talking about Guyton's 3pt shooting and if he's 12/32 he's at 37.5%. However, if you're going to remove his 5/5 game it should work both ways so the 1/7 game against Robert Morris should be ignored, but it's way to early in the season to get into all of that. The sample size is just 7 games.
11-28-2010 06:17 PM
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I'll buy taking the 1/7 game out. That makes him 30%. Your right it is too small of a sample. But watching the games the amount of 3's that are airballs or clank off the rim is awfully high. The shooting just hasn't been very good. If it doesn't get a little bit better it will hurt them this season. How much who knows but they need to get better to be a really good team.
11-28-2010 06:42 PM
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(11-28-2010 06:17 PM)anti-zip Wrote:  
(11-27-2010 07:40 PM)dannyb73 Wrote:  Also, you can't just "take away" his best game and re-average his 3pt shooting percentage. It doesn't work that way. He attempted and made those shots and is 41% on the year, which is very decent. That's like taking away someone's worst game and re-averaging them and saying they are better than they really are.

It's common practice in any statisitcal analysis to remove any outliers and look at the numbers with out them. I am alittle confused though, I thought you guys were talking about Guyton's 3pt shooting and if he's 12/32 he's at 37.5%. However, if you're going to remove his 5/5 game it should work both ways so the 1/7 game against Robert Morris should be ignored, but it's way to early in the season to get into all of that. The sample size is just 7 games.

At some point, you are who you are.
11-29-2010 12:01 AM
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(11-29-2010 12:01 AM)dannyb73 Wrote:  
(11-28-2010 06:17 PM)anti-zip Wrote:  
(11-27-2010 07:40 PM)dannyb73 Wrote:  Also, you can't just "take away" his best game and re-average his 3pt shooting percentage. It doesn't work that way. He attempted and made those shots and is 41% on the year, which is very decent. That's like taking away someone's worst game and re-averaging them and saying they are better than they really are.

It's common practice in any statisitcal analysis to remove any outliers and look at the numbers with out them. I am alittle confused though, I thought you guys were talking about Guyton's 3pt shooting and if he's 12/32 he's at 37.5%. However, if you're going to remove his 5/5 game it should work both ways so the 1/7 game against Robert Morris should be ignored, but it's way to early in the season to get into all of that. The sample size is just 7 games.

At some point, you are who you are.

I agree, I think we need some more time to know exactly who he is though. He did shoot 36% from 3 last year at JUCO and at the begining of the year I didn't think we had anyone on the team that could go 5 for 5 in a game so I'm happy with him so far. His jumper looks alittle flat footed to me.
11-29-2010 07:33 PM
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RE: Kent State vs. Lehigh
30 for McCollum in win over #2 seed Duke.
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http://m.espn.go.com/ncb/story?storyId=7700207#

It's a shame we didn't use that scholarship on him instead of the kid that didn't want to go to South Carolina for the tournament game.
03-17-2012 11:23 AM
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Well the best kept secret in college basketball is out of the bag. Last mock I saw had him mid 2nd in the 2013 draft. I'm thinking over the next year and a half that will rise significantly.
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