(02-20-2018 07:37 AM)BadgerMJ Wrote:  

(02-19-2018 10:02 PM)PirateTreasureNC Wrote:  

(02-19-2018 07:42 PM)vandiver49 Wrote:  So I saw BP today and my thoughts were as follows:

Chadwick Boseman and Michael P. Jordan did a great job.

I typically don't agree with Ta-Neshi Coates' political POV's but I thought he had a pretty good run writing the BP comic and much of that influence can be seen in the movie's plot.

The story does a decent job trying to explain why Wakanda chooses to isolate itself, which I felt was always a niggling detail in the comic book.

The fight at the end seemed contrived and created because that's what always happens in Marvel films. Either Warmonger needed to get to have an actual 20-40 man squad or the battle should have been only between him and T'Challa.

The only thing I could see anyone having issue with was Ross' treatment while they were at the Gorilla Tribe.

The post credit scenes were 'meh'

where was the Soul Stone? We know its in Wakanda and I figured that they'd introduce it before Infinity War.

(02-19-2018 11:39 AM)PirateTreasureNC Wrote:  Blade and Black Panther aren't that close of a comparison for that point IMO. Yes, the title characters are black, and yes they are super heroes, but the big difference is BP was set in Africa and had a predominantly black cast-- Blade not so much.

But for someone to play a white guilt angle to wait on seeing a movie is pretty stupid.

I could take the praise if it was strictly about the movie. It ranks 3rd for me behind Iron Man 1 and Captain America 2. But as Badger MJ stated, many of the comments are venturing off into the fantastic. When people are complaining about why it took so long for something like this to come out and how they wish more comics existed for them, I can't help but reflect upon my childhood.

The Black Panther comic has been around for almost 50 years with middling sales at the best of times. Dwayne McDuffie's Icon and Millstone Comics lasted only four years and that MANTIS TV show just squeeked out two seasons. Storm has had 3 independent series that were all canceled inside a year. Where were all of these 'fans' back then when the industry needed them?

BP is lower tier 2 to me.


Tier 1:
Winter Soldier
Iron Man
The Avengers
Dr. Strange
Spiderman Homecoming

Tier 2
Thor Ragnarok
Civil War
Black Panther

Tier 3
Thor Dark World
Antman
Captain America
*it had to be the way it had to be to get Cap's background up for the current world they were taking the MCU to.
Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 2: I loved this one way more than the first one.

Tier 4
Guardians of the Galaxy: TBH, I didn't feel this one.

Tier 5/worst
Thor: Was just done bad in terms of it felt a lot like we need to get a Thor movie made so this is what we will do. It was easily surpassed by Dark World and Ragnarok
Iron Man 3: The Extremis story line is a Tier 1 story line IMO but the movie felt very lacking
The Avengers: Age of Ultron: Ultron felt way more evil in the trailers than his actual reality in the movie.
Hulk: I liked Ed Norton's movie on the surface but it just wasn't up to the quality they have put into the other MCU movies.

That's a pretty good/accurate list. If I were ranking (not necessarily in exact order).....

T1
Iron Man
Winter Soldier
Avengers
Guardians II
Thor Ragnorok
Spidey - Homecoming
Civil War

T2
Panther
GOG I
Dr. Strange
Ant Man
Captain America

T3
Thor
Ultron
Iron Man 2

T4
Iron Man 3
Dark World
Hulk

The way I’d rank them is:

Love it- Iron Man, Winter Soldier, Avengers, Black Panther

Like it- GOG, Homecoming, Ragnorok, Civil War, Doc Strange

Meh- Captain America, GOG 2, Iron Man 3, Thor, Ant Man

Blah- Thor 2, Iron Man 2, Hulk, Avengers 2