Joined: Jul 2007
I Root For: WV Mountaineers
RE: Teams BE may look at
(04-25-2010 04:01 PM)Brick City Pirate Wrote:
(04-25-2010 03:54 PM)WVUeer Wrote:
(04-25-2010 02:59 PM)Brick City Pirate Wrote: You are certainly entitled to your opinion buckaineer. So let's talk a little about West Virginia. I think it's really sad that the best a flagship university of a state can attain is a tier 3 ranking. This ranking, along with the fact that West Virginia is one of the least populated states, puts it in a terrible position in relation to realignment. The ACC would never add a tier 3 school in such a small market. The SEC wouldn't add such a small market when there are schools in other, more populated states that it can go after. On top of all that, your fans are considered by many to be the most disrespectful around. What scares the heck out of you, and many West Virginia fans, is that your school is likely to end up in a conference with more CUSA schools, that are actually very similar to West Virginia in academics and market. You and other West Virginia fans just better hope than when the musical chairs stop, West Virginia ends up in a BCS conference. One last thing. I respect Marshall. As far as academics is concerned, I was under the impression that Marshall wasn't rated in the Tier system.
Brick City Pirate Wrote:This ranking, along with the fact that West Virginia is one of the least populated states, puts it in a terrible position in relation to realignment. The ACC would never add a tier 3 school in such a small market.
I totally disagree with that statement. And to say that the ACC would never add a tier 3 school? I just totally disagree with that.
Has the ACC ever added a tier 3 school? Unless it was Florida State, I don't think so. Everyone thinks being an AAU school is a Big 10 litmus test. The ACC take academics seriously. It might add a non AAU member, but I don't see them adding a Tier 3 school located in a poor state with little population. On top of that, from a sports point of view, West Virginia is not a fertile recruiting area. Please tell me what West Virginia adds to the ACC?
Being a major state flagship university here tv wise is what WVU would bring in comparison to Pittsburgh for example. This analysis only takes into account the WV portion of the Pittsburgh DMA it is part of and also doesn't account for high national ratings on networks. From WVUsports.com : In the state of West Virginia, by comparison, the Mountaineers are king. WVU draws a huge proportion of the TV audience in its own markets. WVU brings with it not only the Charleston and Clarksburg TV markets (including Monongalia and Preston counties), but also the Beckley/Bluefield market (142,570), the Wheeling market (133,110), and the Parkersburg market (64,060). Adding those five markets together gives a truer estimation of WVU's TV market. How does that compare to the Pittsburgh market?
The resulting WVU TV market equals 1,069,826, which would place it at #27. The Pittsburgh market (minus Monongalia and Preston counties) equals 1,036,444, which would place it at #28. A school such as ECU cannot claim to control markets in its state as it is not the "flagship" university and has multiple higher status schools controlling the states markets.
While one source has WVU at Tier 3 status, Forbes has WVU ranked 4 spots below Maryland, three spots below UConn, and ahead of BCS schools from every league such as Oklahoma State, Wisconsin, NC State, Tennessee, Kansas, Clemson, Iowa, South Carolina, Rutgers, Alabama, Nebraska, Oregon State, Miami, Kansas State, and Baylor as well as many other schools U.S. News rates well ahead of WVU. Notice there are ACC schools there as well. A school such as ECU cannot make a similar claim. Florida State also was "below" ACC standards prior to being admitted but has since moved up a bit.