niuguy Wrote:

Quote:I totally agree with you DF. I think that everyone on this board wants world peace and goodwill eternal among men as an outcome. In the interim, we need to recognize when evil is upon or amongst us and eliminate it. We can't ignore it. I pray every day for our troops in harms way - especially NIUGUY. They are the bravest of the brave and deserving of our total support, not political surrender.

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Well thank you. Unfortunetly I'm a liberal (bleeding heart is just a politcal BS term..like calling all republicans hawks) who isn't against the use of force...kind of like President Clinton in many ways. I know many (including myself) in the Army who think they arnt worth saving and we arnt accomplishing anything. Destroying evil? What is this some kind of dungeons and dragons game? We arnt destroying evil in Iraq. We are growing it.

Sadly I must admit that I've grown a little vengeful while listening to people and seeing Iraq first hand. Most of me wants out of Iraq because we arnt going to accomplish our goals. The other part of me (small part, but there) just wants to see em **** each other up. I'll admit that its wrong and totally not my style. Hell I dont even believe in the death penalty. But part of me is like "well if they want to fight each other lets give them what they want." Lets let them develop a some sort of government structure so we can have something to bomb later. ugh.

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Anyways....I think we can agree on one thing.


mm pizza...

Thanks for the info, too bad it isn't more positive. I think the vast majority of people would vote for the "surge" in troops if they had a good reason to think it would work and shorten the war in the long run. Those of us in the US don't get a good idea of what's really happening on the ground in Iraq from the news, but I'm personally pessimistic that adding more soldiers is going to accomplish anything.

I don't think it's fair to compare the situation in Iraq to what happened with Japan in WWII, as someone mentioned above. The Japanese weren't religious zealots that wanted to live in the stone age (and they were generally pretty industrious), so the same type of response probably wouldn't work.

No dem candidate can win anything without a lock on the black vote. Wouldn't it be hillarious if the black vote goes to Obama instead of Hillary. Can you imagine how pissed Hillary would be about that? I wonder what spin is going on behind the scenes right now? Can you imagine being put in the position of having to kiss JJ & Al's rear end? I wouldn't do that for any amount of money in the world.

I hope niether one of these guys is the democratic candidate for 2008 because both are too easy to defeat. If the dems give Hillary or Obama, that means the republicans will give us McCain, Romny or Guilani all of which are not conservatives. I'd rather have a real conservtive this time like Huckaby or Duncan Hunter or even Tancredo. If it's business as usual with the republicans I will not vote in the next presidential election.

It is no secret that the coming months, Obama is going to be beaten by. He is the most popular politician at the moment! Since the Islamic school, when he was 10, does not mean anything, you are just looking for a reason not to support it.

Hey Kedz, how's Obamas Presidency looking now? After roasting Trump and having the troops take out UBL, looks like another 4 years.

Especially when you see who the Republicon/cant competition is

ImPalin: complete moron
Bachman: idiot
Santorum: doesn't have a snowballs chance in hades
Donald Chump Trump: attention whore who bailed when the going got tough
Newt: 3 divorces and had the nerve to disagree for a day with Paul Ryan till he got slapped down by the Teabaggers. So no chance for him.

Romney: can you say Romneycare

Now if Bachmann & Palin could run on the same ticket, the laughs would increase exponentially!