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B12 Divisions
How would y'all align the B12 divisions if BYU and Louisville are entering in 13?

Mine looks a lil somethin like this:

Texas------Oklahoma
BYU--------TCU
Tech-------Baylor
Kansas-----Kansas St
Louisville---WVU
Iowa St----Oklahoma State

Its a nice clean zipper alignment that keeps almost all of the rivalries intact.
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That set up makes more sense than any geographical divide that I can come up with.
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(02-25-2012 05:02 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  That set up makes more sense than any geographical divide that I can come up with.

I couldn't think of any geographical divides that made a tad bit of sense.
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(02-25-2012 05:12 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  
(02-25-2012 05:02 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  That set up makes more sense than any geographical divide that I can come up with.

I couldn't tihnk of any geographical divides that made a tad bit of sense.

Looking at it further, the only change I could think of possibly making is swapping WVU and Louisville. I know Kansas and Texas would probably love to have louisville basketball in the same division but football drives the bus and that division on the right is much stronger in football then the left division and that is bad for those stronger programs. I would swap WVU and Louisville for better football parity.
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RE: B12 Divisions
It is really hard to tell at this time which way the conference would be laid out if expansion takes place with Louisville and BYU. Some people have mentioned a North/South setup, but I think east/west or possibly SouthWest/NorthEast divisions might work out.

There is a lot of talk that Texas and Oklahoma have to be in the same division, but I really don't buy that as long as they are guaranteed their annual rivalry game each and every year they could live in opposite divisions, and with a chance at playing one another in a championship game as well. Some people make out a championship game is going to knock out one of these two schools chances of obtaining a shot at a National Title Shot, but it shouldn't IMO especially the way these guys schedule.

So with that stated here is my set up as followed.


TCU
Louisville
Kansas
Kansas State
WVU
Iowa State

Oklahoma
Okla State
Texas
TT
Baylor
BYU

I have OU and UT in the same division, but I think it is possible of switching OU/OSU and KU/KSU to make things work.
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Its hard to make good geographically divided divisions when the conference is spread out like this one would be. If Texas and Oklahoma are permanent cross division opponents like the ACC does then that would work. Then that rivalry doesn't disappear like Okies rivalry with Nebraska.
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RE: B12 Divisions
OU and UT don't want to meet twice in the conference title. Which means they have to be in the same divisions. Which means it's impossible to balance divisions. Because of this, a north/south split may as well happen.

North
Brigham Young
Iowa State
Kansas
Kansas State
Louisville
West Virginia

South
Baylor
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
Texas
Texas Christian
Texas Tech

With no cross division rivals, and 4 schools in Texas, the north division will still be getting exposure in Texas. So I don't see a problem with these divisions.
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OC, you should stick to ACC and BEast discussions. IMO your Big XII divisional setup sucks...
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RE: B12 Divisions
(02-25-2012 05:15 PM)BigOwensboroCard Wrote:  It is really hard to tell at this time which way the conference would be laid out if expansion takes place with Louisville and BYU. Some people have mentioned a North/South setup, but I think east/west or possibly SouthWest/NorthEast divisions might work out.

There is a lot of talk that Texas and Oklahoma have to be in the same division, but I really don't buy that as long as they are guaranteed their annual rivalry game each and every year they could live in opposite divisions, and with a chance at playing one another in a championship game as well. Some people make out a championship game is going to knock out one of these two schools chances of obtaining a shot at a National Title Shot, but it shouldn't IMO especially the way these guys schedule.

So with that stated here is my set up as followed.


TCU
Louisville
Kansas
Kansas State
WVU
Iowa State

Oklahoma
Okla State
Texas
TT
Baylor
BYU

I have OU and UT in the same division, but I think it is possible of switching OU/OSU and KU/KSU to make things work.

Texas to the Big 12 is like California to the PAC 12. These programs coming in are wanting access to it. I could see the Texas programs being split same as the California programs are. I could see Texas going with this so that they are not in the same division with Oklahoma and Oklahoma State. They can maintain their rivalry with Oklahoma while beginning to reach out to programs farther away.

Your set up has an extremely off balanced football divide, even more so then the divisions in the OP. Not trying to be overly critical here, just stating a flaw in that division. I don't see Texas setting itself up with a divide that harms its ability to make it to the conference championship. They are not going to want to be in the much stronger division. They would want it equalized or to even be in the weaker division, in my opinion of course.
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RE: B12 Divisions
(02-25-2012 04:50 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  How would y'all align the B12 divisions if BYU and Louisville are entering in 13?

Mine looks a lil somethin like this:

Texas------Oklahoma
BYU--------TCU
Tech-------Baylor
Kansas-----Kansas St
Louisville---WVU
Iowa St----Oklahoma State

Its a nice clean zipper alignment that keeps almost all of the rivalries intact.

I would switch TCU and Tech. Baylor would be a better rivalry for TCU then BYU.
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