(01-07-2012 09:16 AM)The Flash Wrote:
(01-06-2012 11:07 AM)FORT MEIGS ROCKET Wrote:
(01-06-2012 09:56 AM)axeme Wrote: No, just that we have a long history, tradition and rivalry with playing BG. KSU and BG even have an annual athletic competition with each called the Centennial Cup, based on the idea that both schools were founded at about the same time. There is virtually no tradition or rivalry built up with the three newer schools. When KSU and BG play, there is usually a good contingent of visiting fans/alums who live close enough to either school to make it a better crowd. There is zero local interest in the new schools and I would guess there are very few fans and alums of UB, Temple and UMass in NE or NW Ohio. Big difference.
So if having BG and KSU in the same division only to appease the alums, along with NE and NW Ohio fanbases, may I respectfully suggest, both schools cozying up to the idea of FCS status, with Youngstown State...
The difference is that we interact with BG and other Ohio MAC alumni every day. At work, in our neighborhoods, etc. There is a rivalry, banter and discussion. Occasionally, fans from these schools might attend a game in Kent. None of this is there with the new schools and interst in KSU football could suffer further (if that is even possible.) This was not meant as a dig on these schools and I can see the point that KSU is not an attractive opponent for them either. I would rather see Toledo and BG than UMASS and Temple.
The problem is there are too many schools in the MAC to please and you can't please them all.
Schools within a 4 hour drive in the new alignment
Buffalo (Kent, Akron)
Kent (Buffalo, Akron, Ohio, Miami)
Akron (Buffalo, Kent, Akron, Miami)
Miami (Ohio, Kent, Akron)
Ohio (Miami, Kent, Akron)
Northern Ill (Ball St, WMU)
Central Michigan (WMU, EMU, UT, BG, BSU)
Western Michigan (NIU, Ball St, EMU, UT, BG)
Eastern Michigan (WMU, CMU, UT, BG, Ball St)
Bowling Green (EMU, UT, CMU, WMU, Ball St)
Toledo (EMU, UT, CMU, WMU, Ball St)
Ball State (NIU, BG, UT, EMU, CMU, WMU)
Bowling Green I'm sure would want to be in the West for travel reasons and the West likewise would want to minimize 12 hour road trips to UMass and Temple.
For most sports 4 hours is the golden rule of bus distance. In football I would extend that out to 10 hours. For this reason UMass almost has to be in the East to have any type of economy in travel.
MAC distances to UMass, Foxboro Stadium from mapquest (hours)
Temple (5 hr 37 minutes)
Buffalo (7 hr 26 minutes)
Akron (10 hr 43 minutes)
Kent (10 hr 36 minutes)
Ohio (12 hr 41 minutes)
Miami (14 hr 32 minutes)
Temple, Buffalo, Kent and Akron can all easily bus to UMass. Kent, Akron and Buffalo can take a football bus to anywhere in the division and be there within 10 hours.
MAC distances from Amherst, MA to MAC campuses:
Temple (5 hr 3 minutes)
Buffalo (6 hr 24 minutes)
Kent (9 hr 48 minutes)
Akron (9 hr 50 minutes)
Ohio (12 hr 7 minutes)
Miami (13 hr 41 minutes)
For UMass then in MAC play its 4 home football games, 2 road games by bus and 2 road games by plane on an annual basis. For everyone else its about 1 flight a year on the road in MAC play.
Temple doesn't have to fly any of its MAC East opponents and half of the MAC West.