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RE: MAC is back!
(09-12-2017 08:57 AM)Ken Barna Wrote:  Dear Chip Enema,
As usual, you only refer to one of the votes taken in 1984. The first vote was to kick Eastern football out of the MAC, and it was 8-2 with Central voting with the eight. As usual you continue to disrespect a good reporter who worked for the Detroit News at the time.
I was wrong in stating 1981, it was 1984 that the votes took place.
You and Chippitt should go back to page 16 on your website to review the research of the article in the Detroit News at the time this came about.

We use ChippewasInsider FYI.

Also, I was born in 1990 so excuse my ignorance, but why is this a big deal? I am looking back at those years and EMU won like 3 games in those 4 years combined. I understand the animosity to a certain extent, but can you provide some context to why you routinely bring this up? UMass was a black eye to the MAC in recent memory (along with EMU until last year) and everyone wanted them out. So why is it a big deal to vote to kick out EMU during a period where they were horrible? If CMU posted seasons of: 1-9, 0-11, 1-9-1, 1-10, I would expect everyone in the MAC to make fun of us and want us out.

I know you have your thoughts and they will never change, but I really encourage you to do some research yourself. I could be wrong and missing something, but I have found nothing of a vote taking place in 1981. The only thing I found was from 1984, which Chippit cited, and CMU abstained from voting:

"Eastern Michigan and Western Michigan voted against it. Central Michigan (CMU) was sympathetic to their fellow Michigan school, but they were in a tough position. The MAC was incredibly unstable and rumors swirled of an impending exodus of the MAC schools who met FBS standards. As one of the five schools who could meet FBS requirements CMU had conference realignment options. If CMU were to vote in favor of EMU, they would alienate the very schools whose support they would need to find a new home if the MAC imploded. With every other MAC school voting against EMU it didn’t matter which way CMU voted, the result would be the same. CMU decided to abstain to avoid offending either side for a final tally of 7-2-1. Eastern Michigan had just been expelled from its conference six weeks before the college football season started."
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MAC is back! - Bob Wickersham - 09-10-2017, 08:52 AM
RE: MAC is back! - Ken Barna - 09-10-2017, 09:10 AM
RE: MAC is back! - Chippitt - 09-12-2017, 07:57 AM
RE: MAC is back! - CHIPPEWA ENEMA - 09-12-2017, 08:25 AM
RE: MAC is back! - EagleTough - 09-12-2017, 09:36 AM
RE: MAC is back! - emu steve - 09-10-2017, 09:11 AM
RE: MAC is back! - EagleTough - 09-10-2017, 10:36 AM
RE: MAC is back! - Bob Wickersham - 09-10-2017, 11:02 AM
RE: MAC is back! - EagleTough - 09-10-2017, 12:12 PM
RE: MAC is back! - emu79 - 09-10-2017, 11:03 AM
RE: MAC is back! - george14 - 09-10-2017, 11:12 AM
RE: MAC is back! - emu steve - 09-10-2017, 11:19 AM
RE: MAC is back! - george14 - 09-10-2017, 11:28 AM
RE: MAC is back! - Bob Wickersham - 09-10-2017, 11:14 AM
RE: MAC is back! - Luckeyone - 09-10-2017, 07:50 PM
RE: MAC is back! - EagleTough - 09-10-2017, 12:24 PM
RE: MAC is back! - Lefty One - 09-10-2017, 03:24 PM
RE: MAC is back! - george14 - 09-10-2017, 07:40 PM
RE: MAC is back! - Ken Barna - 09-12-2017, 08:19 AM
RE: MAC is back! - Chippitt - 09-12-2017, 11:03 AM
RE: MAC is back! - Huron Boy - 09-12-2017, 11:27 AM
RE: MAC is back! - Ken Barna - 09-12-2017, 08:57 AM
RE: MAC is back! - george14 - 09-12-2017 10:46 AM
RE: MAC is back! - Ken Barna - 09-12-2017, 11:24 AM
RE: MAC is back! - george14 - 09-12-2017, 11:54 AM
RE: MAC is back! - EMUAARON - 09-12-2017, 12:27 PM
RE: MAC is back! - george14 - 09-12-2017, 12:35 PM
RE: MAC is back! - Ken Barna - 09-12-2017, 11:30 AM
RE: MAC is back! - Chippitt - 09-12-2017, 11:56 AM
RE: MAC is back! - george14 - 09-12-2017, 12:02 PM
RE: MAC is back! - EagleTough - 09-12-2017, 12:11 PM
RE: MAC is back! - Ken Barna - 09-12-2017, 12:20 PM
RE: MAC is back! - Ken Barna - 09-12-2017, 12:34 PM
RE: MAC is back! - george14 - 09-12-2017, 12:37 PM
RE: MAC is back! - Ken Barna - 09-12-2017, 12:38 PM
RE: MAC is back! - george14 - 09-12-2017, 12:39 PM
RE: MAC is back! - george14 - 09-12-2017, 12:44 PM
RE: MAC is back! - Ken Barna - 09-12-2017, 12:57 PM
RE: MAC is back! - george14 - 09-12-2017, 01:06 PM
RE: MAC is back! - masttg - 09-15-2017, 06:10 PM
RE: MAC is back! - Ken Barna - 09-12-2017, 01:10 PM
RE: MAC is back! - Chippitt - 09-12-2017, 02:17 PM
RE: MAC is back! - george14 - 09-12-2017, 03:03 PM
RE: MAC is back! - Ken Barna - 09-12-2017, 03:13 PM
RE: MAC is back! - george14 - 09-12-2017, 03:49 PM
RE: MAC is back! - Ken Barna - 09-12-2017, 04:39 PM
RE: MAC is back! - george14 - 09-12-2017, 04:46 PM
RE: MAC is back! - Bob Wickersham - 09-13-2017, 09:21 AM
RE: MAC is back! - Ken Barna - 09-16-2017, 09:42 AM
RE: MAC is back! - masttg - 09-16-2017, 09:44 AM
RE: MAC is back! - Luckeyone - 09-16-2017, 09:58 AM
RE: MAC is back! - Bob Wickersham - 09-17-2017, 08:53 AM
RE: MAC is back! - EagleSam - 09-17-2017, 09:14 AM
RE: MAC is back! - EagleTough - 09-17-2017, 09:18 AM
RE: MAC is back! - Bob Wickersham - 09-17-2017, 09:20 AM
RE: MAC is back! - emu steve - 09-17-2017, 11:29 AM
RE: MAC is back! - Bob Wickersham - 09-17-2017, 03:58 PM
RE: MAC is back! - Luckeyone - 09-17-2017, 09:19 PM
MAC is back! - EAGLE KING - 09-17-2017, 04:06 PM
RE: MAC is back! - CMUprof - 09-17-2017, 05:58 PM
RE: MAC is back! - Luckeyone - 09-17-2017, 09:23 PM
RE: MAC is back! - emu steve - 09-18-2017, 03:43 AM
RE: MAC is back! - Bob Wickersham - 09-18-2017, 09:36 AM
RE: MAC is back! - Bob Wickersham - 09-18-2017, 09:39 AM
RE: MAC is back! - george14 - 09-19-2017, 08:47 AM
RE: MAC is back! - emu steve - 09-19-2017, 09:27 AM
RE: MAC is back! - emu steve - 09-18-2017, 09:48 AM
RE: MAC is back! - Bob Wickersham - 09-18-2017, 09:56 AM
RE: MAC is back! - emu steve - 09-18-2017, 10:44 AM
RE: MAC is back! - Ken Barna - 09-18-2017, 10:51 AM
RE: MAC is back! - Bob Wickersham - 09-18-2017, 11:28 AM
RE: MAC is back! - NIU007 - 09-18-2017, 03:35 PM
RE: MAC is back! - Ken Barna - 09-18-2017, 03:10 PM
RE: MAC is back! - EagleTough - 09-18-2017, 05:14 PM
RE: MAC is back! - Bob Wickersham - 09-18-2017, 05:27 PM
RE: MAC is back! - EagleTough - 09-18-2017, 06:19 PM
RE: MAC is back! - Ken Barna - 09-18-2017, 04:55 PM
RE: MAC is back! - Ken Barna - 09-19-2017, 12:17 PM
RE: MAC is back! - emu steve - 09-19-2017, 01:16 PM
RE: MAC is back! - george14 - 09-19-2017, 04:07 PM
RE: MAC is back! - EMUAARON - 09-19-2017, 01:20 PM
RE: MAC is back! - emu steve - 09-19-2017, 02:32 PM
RE: MAC is back! - masttg - 09-19-2017, 09:43 PM
RE: MAC is back! - Ken Barna - 09-19-2017, 04:53 PM
RE: MAC is back! - emu steve - 09-19-2017, 08:18 PM
RE: MAC is back! - Bob Wickersham - 09-20-2017, 02:32 PM
RE: MAC is back! - george14 - 09-20-2017, 03:36 PM
RE: MAC is back! - george14 - 09-20-2017, 09:19 AM
RE: MAC is back! - Ken Barna - 09-19-2017, 08:27 PM
RE: MAC is back! - Ken Barna - 09-20-2017, 09:27 AM
RE: MAC is back! - Boca Rocket - 09-20-2017, 09:52 AM
RE: MAC is back! - Ken Barna - 09-20-2017, 05:28 PM
RE: MAC is back! - Ken Barna - 09-20-2017, 05:31 PM
RE: MAC is back! - george14 - 09-21-2017, 08:46 AM
RE: MAC is back! - EagleTough - 09-20-2017, 08:46 PM
RE: MAC is back! - Bob Wickersham - 09-21-2017, 09:42 AM
RE: MAC is back! - emu79 - 09-21-2017, 11:11 AM



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