(07-15-2017 11:22 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(07-15-2017 11:12 AM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  

(07-15-2017 10:42 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(07-15-2017 10:28 AM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  

(07-15-2017 10:20 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  They advocate for the legality of throwing all Gay people into jailcamps for the 'crime' of being LGBT. They work with the World Congress of Families at the UN. Yea, they qualify.

Source?

How many do you want?

How about the ADF cheering an INdian Ruling criminalizing being LGBT and has been used to throw hundreds of Indians into Prison.

"When given the same choice the Supreme Court of the United States had in Lawrence vs. Texas, the Indian Court did the right thing. India chose to protect society at large rather than give in to a vocal minority of homosexual advocates. … America needs to take note that a country of 1.2 billion people has rejected the road towards same-sex marriage, and understood that these kinds of bad decisions in the long run will harm society."

—Benjamin Bull, executive director of ADF Global, on the recriminalization of homosexuality in India, 2013

“The issue under rational-basis review is not whether Texas should be concerned about opposite-sex sodomy, but whether it is reasonable to believe that same-sex sodomy is a distinct public health problem. It clearly is.”

—ADF attorney Glen Lavy, counsel of record, amicus brief, Lawrence v. Texas, 2003

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Let me know if you'd like to read their amicus briefs.

They have extensive links to Russia, where at least 27 LGBT men have been executed this year in Southern Russia's Gay Concentration Camp. The detentions have restarted btw. I suppose Trump gave the green light for it.

You post a typical inflammatory statement about a Christian based group supporting jail camps for homosexuals. I'm calling you out to give me a source or quote that matches your ridiculous statement. You give examples of their supposed positions but make the leap across the Grand Canyon that they advocate for jail camps.

No, actually, the quote by the leader of the ADF, appears to be a full throated endorsement of the criminalization of being Gay. That means jail. And it has meant jail.

In the Lawrence v Texas case, the case did involve around a CRIMINAL arrest for the crime of non-commercial, consensual sex between unrelated adults in the privacy of their own bedroom. And yet the ADF wanted that to remain illegal. Laws like it were used to enhance penalties for LGBT persons as well. 2 years for crime x if straight, 20 if LGBT.

Beyond that, the ADF or its leaders, appear to pal around with the World Congress of Families as they seek to defend jail for LGBT persons around the world, the denial of even basic human rights for LGBT persons, and even palling around with Putin's genocidally anti-LGBT regime in Russia.

By the way, they have lawyers. Lots of lawyers. They can sue ABC or even me if they'd like to have a court decide whether calling the ADF a 'hate group' is libelous. They won't because they'd lose and the only impact of a lawsuit would be to highlight their advocacy. As well as so much discovery that might expose their activities to further scrutiny.

These aren't supposed positions, but direct quotes. Again, why not go to the website and look up their amicus briefs. You asked for sources, I provided sources. Its up to you to either accept them, ignore them, or discredit them.

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At best the ADF appears to work directly to defend the legality of throwing all Gay people into jail for the 'crime' of being Gay.

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So no, it isn't fake news to describe the ADF as a 'hate group', unless you think that jailing people for the 'crime' of existing isn't hateful
It isn't libelous either to call them a 'hate group' either

And unless you wish to define "religious liberty" as the right to throw people who don't follow your religious dictates into prison for the 'crime' of not allowing them to tell you what kind of sex you can have, I'd challenge the title calling them a "religious liberty org".

To summarize...you have zero sources to back up your lies and deceit. Standard operating procedure, for one Tom in Lazybrook.