(06-20-2017 03:30 PM)RutgersGuy Wrote:  

(06-20-2017 03:16 PM)clpp01 Wrote:  

(06-20-2017 10:57 AM)RutgersGuy Wrote:  

(06-20-2017 10:10 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  No. The only universally recognized Blue Bloods are Duke, North Carolina, Kansas, Kentucky, Indiana and UCLA.

Georgetown does not have the resume of those schools, the $$$$, the following, etc. In fact Georgetown is behind other schools knocking on the door (ie. Louisville, Connecticut, Arizona). What's more, Georgetown hasn't been Georgetown since Big John left and are falling even further down the hierarchy.

I don't get this Arizona love and putting them up near the top echelon. They have won one championship. They are a constant underachiever, just look at this year. Xavier with their best player out for the season beat them in the NCAA's. They get big time recruits every year and get lofty rankings every pre-season and constantly underachieve. Arizona never had the level of dominance that Georgetown had at one point. At least the Hoyas were very close to 3 titles in 3 years.

Arizona might not have the 5 year peak that Georgetown had 30-35 years ago but the mid 1980s aren't coming back anytime soon. You say Arizona has been underachieving yet seem to ignore that during that same time frame Georgetown has been largely irrelevant but if you look at each program's complete history you will see that Arizona definitely belongs in the conversation. Overall Georgetown has an additional F4 over UofA and from what I could find the AAs are equal between the two, Arizona holds advantage in wins, tournament appearances, tourney wins, S16s, E8s and both # of weeks ranked in AP and # of times ranked in the EOY AP rankings.

I wasn't comparing the two. It was an independent thought that Arizona underachieves and gets far too much love/respect than they deserve. The late 90's aren't coming back either. Losing to squads they are clearly more talented than almost every year in March means that UA isn't even in that second tier.

Since you compared the 2, it's easier to be ranked longer when you play in a much easier conference.

It's also easier when you aren't going 14-18 against a weaker SOS.

What's with this nonsense of losing to inferior teams every year? 2017 fits but it is really the only year you can claim during the Miller era, Duke just lost to South Carolina judging by how you view Arizona perhaps they need to turn in their blue blood card?