Kiffin was an ass, but the fan base was excited about him until he left, and he left to take a better job. I don't see how that can be a failure. Barnes had the basketball team overachieve last season, beat everyone's expectations. I agree that Holly (especially) and Butch are on the hot seat, but that is what I am saying about UT fans being delusional about their program. When you are recruiting at a high level, are winning consistently (even when not competing for national championships), and graduating your players, I consider that a successful coach.

The Lady Vols aren't going to find another Pat Summit, and the football team isn't going to win a national championship in the SEC until Nick Saban retires, regardless of who their coach is. There is only 1 Nick Saban, and firing your coach because he isn't as good as Saban is silly. Just my opinion. That is all I will say about the UT program on this board- I really hate that school and their ugly orange.