(01-26-2015 09:37 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(01-26-2015 08:07 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  

(01-23-2015 02:11 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  

(01-23-2015 02:00 PM)tribe_pride Wrote:  Not saying that UNC is not crap for all of this and should get punished by the NCAA but where is personal responsibility for the students who skated by? Couldn't the individual student athletes have signed up for real classes and actually have done real work? Sounds like people trying to take advantage of a system twice - first by taking joke classes when they had an opportunity to take real classes and now trying to sue for "damages" because they were allowed (but assuming not forced even if they were encouraged) to take the joke classes.

I concur - the article says, "This case involves allegations of breach of contract against UNC for a failure to provide "academically sound classes with legitimate educational instruction.""

I'm pretty sure that the vast majority of courses offered by UNC are "academically sound." The athletes just chose to take other courses instead. So UNC provided good academics; it's not their fault that athletes chose to skate by.

Disagree...because there are hundreds of past interviews of former athletes that were "forced" to take easy, and in this case, no-show classes, so that they could spend more time in the workout rooms, film rooms, easily keep their eligibility so they could play sports for said school.

You are blind to think that ALL Athletes can take "any" class offered by the Univ.

Since there are hundreds, can you link a couple? I can't remember ever reading one.

This feature series by USA TODAY has been posted dozens of times on boards through the years:

College athletes studies guided toward 'major in eligibility'
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/co...over_N.htm

This NY Times article on "Majoring in Eligibility" also links the infamous feature article from The Chronicle about how a former Univ of Memphis Player initially graduated from HS and was admitted to Memphis and how he stayed eligible.

Majoring in Eligibility
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/09/opinio....html?_r=0

Atlanta Journal & Constitution also did a series that exposed the joke of academic performance/requirements at some major "elite" Universities (like UF).

While that article is not in the free archives, this article on this subject notes some facts from that article, which include:

The Journal-Constitution quoted Murray Sperber, a former University of Indiana professor and the author of several books on college sports. He said “there’s a huge world of Mickey Mouse courses and special curriculums that athletes are steered into. The problem is there are many athletes graduating from schools who are semiliterate.”

In one outrageous example, in 2004, an assistant men’s basketball coach (also the son of the head coach) at the University of Georgia taught a course taken by many players called “Coaching Principles and Strategy of Basketball.” The final exam consisted of questions such as: “How many goals are on a basketball court? How many points does a 3-point field goal account for in a basketball game? Diagram the half-court line.”

Here's that complete Univ of Georgia final "Basketball Class Exam" which had mostly student atheltes taking that "fake course":


http://www.redandblack.com/news/jim-harr...ed8e9.html

Some questions from said FINAL EXAM (ony exam), taught by the son of the HC of the Georgia Bulldogs and who was an asst coach, Jim Harrick Jr:

In your opinion, who is the best Division I Assistant Coach in the country?
a. Ron Jirsa
b. John Pelphrey
c. Jim Harrick, Jr.
d. Steve Wojciechowski

14. How many minutes are played in a college basketball contest?
a. 20
b. 40
c. 60
d. 90

What is the name of the exam which all high school seniors in the State of Georgia must pass?
a. Eye Exam
b. How Do The Grits Taste Exam
c. Bug Control Exam
d. Georgia Exit Exam