(12-05-2014 02:36 PM)ken d Wrote:  

(12-05-2014 01:48 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-05-2014 01:14 PM)ken d Wrote:  Quo, I think you are making way to much about semantics, and missing the big point. A four team mini-tournament is a weak substitute for a real national tournament. No doubt the participants all deserve to be in such a national tournament, but other deserving teams - and you could argue equally deserving teams - are arbitrarily left out. Until that's fixed, you still have a mythical national champion.

Well, a post ago, you seemed to think the 'semantic' distinction between a "National champion of college basketball" a term you claimed I made up and had nothing to do with the purpose of the NCAA tournament, and "NCAA Division I basketball champion", a term which you said captured the real purpose of the NCAA tournament, was important.

But anyway ... I think i now get it: You're not actually claiming the crazy stuff Adcorbett is claiming - stuff like "the CFP doesn't award a national championship, the polls do", you acknowledge that the CFP does exist, that it does conduct a 4-team playoff, the purpose of which is to crown the CFP Champion, which it believes is the National Champion of FBS football.

You just think that their 4-team playoff is such a flawed process -it leaves out too many teams that deserve to play for it- that in your view it cannot be trusted to produce a real, valid "national champion", so you prefer to think of the CFP national championship as still, as in the days of the BCS and before then the polls, "mythical", in the sense that the process leaves us with too much uncertainty as to whether the winner of the CFP National Championship game really is the "true" deserving national champ.

In the same way that if I think the NFL playoffs leave out too many deserving teams, or maybe include too many weak ones, such that I don't trust that the NFL playoffs can be relied on to crown the "true" NFL champion, I might regard the results of the playoffs and the winner of the Super Bowl as a "mythical" pro football champion as well.

Correct?

You had me right up until that NFL crap.