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RE: Some observations on the CFP Top 25, + discrepancies between CFP Top 25 and AP Poll
(10-29-2014 10:31 AM)stever20 Wrote:  
(10-29-2014 10:26 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(10-29-2014 09:57 AM)stever20 Wrote:  
(10-29-2014 09:51 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(10-29-2014 09:25 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  And of course you cut out the part of my post about why ND's schedule is rated higher than TCU's. Care to comment on that or just gonna ignore it?

I didn't ignore it, I read it and decided it wasn't worth commenting on, because it boiled down to you disagreeing with how SOS is calculated, and I didn't find that convincing.

ND's schedule is rated higher by just about everybody. That's pretty strong evidence that they have in fact played a tougher schedule than TCU. And that's before we consider that ND has a better loss than them or Michigan State. No way should ND be ranked behind those teams.

I think what is far more worthy of nit-picking is why is FSU ranked 8 spots ahead of Notre Dame? Outside of their game versus each other, their schedules are almost identical, and FSU "won" thanks to being bailed out by the refs despite trailing almost the whole game and being badly out-gained, out-first downed, and out- time of possessioned. Factor in that the game was at Tallahassee, worth at least 5-6 points, and objectively, ND 'won' that game. And yet FSU is 8 spots higher thanks to a single ref's call.

Go figure. 07-coffee3

Clemson is better than anyone that ND has played.

THe problem is ND hasn't beaten ANYONE. Everyone else in the top 10 has beaten a top 20 team. The committee is clearly valuing who you have beat- and that kills ND.

Clemson sucks. They couldn't beat FSU without Jameis Winston. Stanford is better than they are.

Beyond that, though, I've explained why the committee is wrong to "value who you have beat" more than things like SOS and who you lost to, especially when the teams you beat are marginal - like FSU beating Clemson and Michigan State beating Nebraska.

Stanford has 3 losses and could very easily finish up with 5 or 6 losses(3 of their last 4 games are against ranked teams). They are not Stanford of the past few years. Clemson will finish up 9-3 or 10-2.

Like it or not but Clemson and Nebraska are top 25 teams. Stanford isn't.

If only Nebraska could play a team close to the caliber of Clemson. Can't controle conference play however.
10-29-2014 10:40 AM
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