(09-26-2014 09:30 AM)smudge12 Wrote:  

(09-25-2014 06:27 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(09-25-2014 05:01 PM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  

(09-25-2014 04:03 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  The underlying question that nobody wants to talk about is: why the f*ck does my son's kindergarten teacher need a master's degree when we could get someone with a high school diploma, a a passed competency test, and a thorough background investigation that is just as qualified? I am sure there are plenty of fully capable kindergarten teachers with no student loans that would be very happy with $38k per year. Hell, my wife would do it tomorrow and she has a BS and is "unqualified".

You ever go the "alternate teaching certificate" route, Ever. A lot of states have those, where you just need a college degree and you can get the ATC.

I know Mississippi _used_ to have it for computer science courses (it was one thing I was going to do with my degree until I saw the nightmare of public school systems.)

Missouri has one, not sure how it works though.,..

Virginia has one too. They still require a bachelors and 6 months of time without income. Also, the administrators look down on them and assign you schit jobs in the schittiest schools.

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While I was looking for an engineering position out of college, I received a temporary VA teaching license in 6-12 Math (it lasts two years). The only academic requirements were that I have certain math classes under my belt (engn. coursework pretty much fulfill them) and that I score the minimum VA requirement on the Praxis exam (each states has different score requirements).

And like any job, I applied to the relevant positions at whatever schools I wanted to. They certainly didn't assign me a "schit" position in the "schittiest" school; I had a choice.

If I wanted to pursue the permanent license, I would have taken the required teaching classes in the two years my license was good for.

When did you do this? My experience was after getting laid off in 2009 and my previous industry was in the schitter. Only option was a certificate program that was 6 months long, cost a decent amount of money, and required you work for free for a period. I visited HR in Newport News and they didn't offer me an exam or mention any kind of "temporary license". My wife has looked into it for herself as well.

Did you apply and get any of the positions you desired? Sure, you can apply, but who do you think will get those jobs. Guarantee you they have a masters and the only position you'd have a chance at getting is teaching prealgebra to below average students at Booker T, not AP Calculus at Maury or Granby.